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Discussion in 'Cleveland' started by C. B., Jan 6, 2014.

  1. hipityhop

    hipityhop Member

    New Mexico United
    United States
    Jan 10, 1999
    Mission TX
    Club:
    SønderjyskE
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  2. Tobias C

    Tobias C Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Mar 6, 2014
    Toledo, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Been awhile since weve heard anything. I wonder if Covid has had any kind of substantial impact on the process of getting a team off the ground?

    I suppose its probably a good thing that nothing noteworthy has happened yet, as covid may have brought it to a screeching halt and very well may have killed it completely. They can bide their time, make sure everything happens the way it should/needs to, and launch at a more opportune time.
     
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  3. MLSinCleveland

    MLSinCleveland Member+

    Oct 12, 2006
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm starting to fear that Cleveland will end up being the one major league market to never get any outdoor professional soccer team again.
     
  4. CCSUltra

    CCSUltra Member+

    Nov 18, 2008
    Cleveland
    Club:
    Hertha BSC Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    From what I’ve heard, there’s still work going on behind the scenes to secure the land for a stadium. Let’s be honest - there’s no good solution for a club outside building a dedicated stadium. I wouldn’t expect anything to happen until that’s secured.
     
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  5. MLSinCleveland

    MLSinCleveland Member+

    Oct 12, 2006
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think a League 1 team could work in a rented stadium, but given how the USL is steering teams to leagues based on market size, I think it's Championship or bust for Cleveland.

    Okay, there's the NISA, but I;m not sure how much better that is than the NPSL given their lack of stability.
     
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  6. CCSUltra

    CCSUltra Member+

    Nov 18, 2008
    Cleveland
    Club:
    Hertha BSC Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The only investors I know of are the ones we all know, and it’s focused on USL Championship. League 1 doesn’t fit the profile of the city.

    A NISA club would have the same problem - there’s no good stadium choice.
     
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  7. MLSinCleveland

    MLSinCleveland Member+

    Oct 12, 2006
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not sure NISA needs an SSS the way the Championship does.
     
  8. MLSinCleveland

    MLSinCleveland Member+

    Oct 12, 2006
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If both come to fruition, which will be the better draw:

    The Force or the Crunch?
     
  9. CCSUltra

    CCSUltra Member+

    Nov 18, 2008
    Cleveland
    Club:
    Hertha BSC Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    NISA doesn’t have the same stadium requirements, but where would a team play? Krenzler is solidly booked with all the CSU events. Anywhere else is gonna have football lines.

    I’m... skeptical the new Crunch will play. They don’t even have a league yet.
     
  10. SimplyThis

    SimplyThis Member

    May 2, 2006
    Are they still trying to secure land in the downtown area, preferably the State of Ohio land that was once proposed for a Browns stadium and then a Wolstein MLS stadium?
     
  11. CCSUltra

    CCSUltra Member+

    Nov 18, 2008
    Cleveland
    Club:
    Hertha BSC Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, at least from what I’ve heard around. This info is definitely months old, so I don’t know what’s changed. But there’s a specific LLC trying to secure that land for a stadium.
     
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  12. MLSinCleveland

    MLSinCleveland Member+

    Oct 12, 2006
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I thought the MASL had already accepted their expansion fee.
     
  13. ThePonchat

    ThePonchat Member+

    #ProRelForUSA
    United States
    Jan 10, 2013
    I've Been Everywhere Man
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    NISA does have similar stadium requirements [as USL1] because USSF Division III requirements are set. The affiliation can choose to go above them, if they want. But, they can also apply for waivers, which happens regularly.
     
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  14. CCSUltra

    CCSUltra Member+

    Nov 18, 2008
    Cleveland
    Club:
    Hertha BSC Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The PD article says the team is early in the application process. We’ll see what ends up happening.
     
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  15. MLSinCleveland

    MLSinCleveland Member+

    Oct 12, 2006
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So SSSs are pretty much mandatory except for MLS teams who can play at an NFL stadium for free (Atlanta, Charlotte)?
     
  16. SimplyThis

    SimplyThis Member

    May 2, 2006
  17. ThePonchat

    ThePonchat Member+

    #ProRelForUSA
    United States
    Jan 10, 2013
    I've Been Everywhere Man
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No. SSSs are not mandatory for anyone. Even in MLS. Sure, MLS may say it here or there, but a number are not SSS.

    Stadium requirements are part of the PLS, but each organization in each Division is able to enforce their own above what PLS requires.
     
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  18. MLSinCleveland

    MLSinCleveland Member+

    Oct 12, 2006
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  19. Tobias C

    Tobias C Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Mar 6, 2014
    Toledo, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is exciting. Makes sense to at least lay the groundwork for the future professional team. Start building the fan base. Get a good idea of what kind of facility will make sense in the future for USL Championship if thats still the ultimate plan.
     
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  20. CCSUltra

    CCSUltra Member+

    Nov 18, 2008
    Cleveland
    Club:
    Hertha BSC Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, they know the facility they need, it’s just on hold for now.

    I think this is a smart move, it gives them a chance to identify talent to help as they go pro.
     
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  21. MLSinCleveland

    MLSinCleveland Member+

    Oct 12, 2006
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hoping for minimal overlap in Force and Cleveland SC home schedules.
     
  22. CCSUltra

    CCSUltra Member+

    Nov 18, 2008
    Cleveland
    Club:
    Hertha BSC Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It’s not clear when Force will start, other than the “near future.” I’d greatly prefer they and CSC work together.
     
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  23. Tobias C

    Tobias C Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Mar 6, 2014
    Toledo, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree. I wonder what this would potentially look like? Honestly I dont see a point in having both teams operating at the same level. Could make sense for the owner of CSC to end that team and be an investor/partner in the Force. I think it would be good to carry over some of the committed guys whove played for both AFC and CSC like Bell, Beck, Cvecko, Manfut, etc.

    Maybe by the time they bump up to League 1, they can snag some higher level local-ish guys as well like Josh Williams, Brad Stuver, Kyle Hyland, Ben Speas, etc. but we can cross that bridge when we get to it.
     
  24. MLSinCleveland

    MLSinCleveland Member+

    Oct 12, 2006
    Cleveland, Ohio
    Club:
    Cleveland C. S.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    CSC, being an NPSL team, has a mix of college-age and older players, while the Force League 2 team would, I believe, be required, and probably want, to be entirely or near-entirely U-23. CSC could serve as a spot for local college players and the best of local amateur leaguers while the Force's League 2 side would be more geared towards players with serious prospects to play for the Force in the Championship.
     
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  25. ThePonchat

    ThePonchat Member+

    #ProRelForUSA
    United States
    Jan 10, 2013
    I've Been Everywhere Man
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    NPSL and USL2 are nearly the same make-up of rosters. Clubs operate them differently, but the idea behind them are about the same -- that's why they both play in the summer.
     

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