Dejavu? The 2020 off Season, catch-all discussion thread.

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  1. pr0ner

    pr0ner Member+

    Jan 13, 2007
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That there's a Sardis less than 10 minutes from where I recently moved fills me with great joy.
     
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  2. jason1551

    jason1551 Member+

    Apr 9, 2003
    Columbus, GA
    Club:
    DC United
     
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  3. Cweedchop

    Cweedchop Member+

    Mar 6, 2000
    Ellicott City, Md
    Don't hold your breath.. :)
     
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  4. Cweedchop

    Cweedchop Member+

    Mar 6, 2000
    Ellicott City, Md
    United are in dire need of players of Flores' ilk. Signing Rooney just wasn't enough as we could all see. United at the very least are making inroads on these players and it's about damn time.

    that being said, can't wait until Olsen gets a hold of this talent and pushes him to right back in early September..
     
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  5. UnitedBorn

    UnitedBorn Member+

    Dec 7, 2015
    301
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    we are pretending to be a real team for a change. This is a welcomed sight
     
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  6. shawn12011

    shawn12011 Member+

    Jun 15, 2001
    Reisterstown, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    expensive deck chair........................................
     
  7. pr0ner

    pr0ner Member+

    Jan 13, 2007
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pablo Maurer is reporting a 5-year deal for Flores at $2M per year.
     
  8. fatbastard

    fatbastard Member+

    Aug 1, 2003
    Lincoln (ish), Va
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I remember late last year ( ;) ) this board was freaking out because 3 other teams had made offers to players and United were obviously going to sit this off-season out again :)
     
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  9. PSURoss

    PSURoss Member+

    Sep 30, 2002
    DC Burbs
    #534 PSURoss, Jan 6, 2020
    Last edited: Jan 6, 2020
    The more interesting question is what does this portend for the labor negotiations? NE, VAN, CLB, KC all small-market teams spending to chase the ATL/NYC/LAFC/etc of the world ... Its all been very quiet and makes me wonder if there is going to be a substantial expansion in the money available for player acquisition and salary as well as avoiding the spectre of a strike/lockout.

    Also hearing that the Lozano #s were way inflated. Makes it far more plausible that we're trying to acquire him at under $10M ... that said, he was a LigaMX first 11 guy, would his team really let him go that inexpensively? Seems like the replacement of talent at that level should cost more. This would make for a pricey midfield while starting a $70k guy at left back.

    Still kinda dubious to see us chasing 5$-10M worth of player purchases when 6 months ago we didn't have 2 dimes to rub together to salvage our most promising season in a decade and only spent to replace Rooney once he said he was out.
     
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  10. shawn12011

    shawn12011 Member+

    Jun 15, 2001
    Reisterstown, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    More South/Central Americans who are not Etch nor Jaime.....................................fun fun fun.
     
  11. pr0ner

    pr0ner Member+

    Jan 13, 2007
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Your definition of a deck chair continues to amaze. It's hard to see how someone who is a key piece to the team that just finished 2nd in Copa America and who was worth United's biggest transfer fee to date is, in any way, a deck chair.
     
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  12. UnitedBorn

    UnitedBorn Member+

    Dec 7, 2015
    301
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I assume that Shawn is just trolling at this point.
     
  13. shawn12011

    shawn12011 Member+

    Jun 15, 2001
    Reisterstown, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nope not trolling. I have seen 900,000 different South/Central Americans come to this club to be the next Etch or Jaime. None of them have come close to that so until one of them actually steps up they will be high priced deck chairs in my book. Tito who we will not pay for was a deck chair. Asad has been no better than a deck chair. The list goes on and on.
     
  14. PSURoss

    PSURoss Member+

    Sep 30, 2002
    DC Burbs
    Well, its 2020 ... MLS3.0 and we're still ramping up our spending into MLS2.0 levels. I also don't think either of these guys is being sold as the next Etch or Moreno who are HoF kind of players ... we're nowhere near spending on that class of player in for this day and age. The expectation needs to be similarly adjusted.
     
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  15. shawn12011

    shawn12011 Member+

    Jun 15, 2001
    Reisterstown, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    ATL and LAFC find them. CBus trades for them.
     
  16. pr0ner

    pr0ner Member+

    Jan 13, 2007
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Saying Asad is a deck chair makes Paul Arriola a deck chair. Is that the comparison you want to make here?
     
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  17. griffin1108

    griffin1108 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 5, 2003
    Virginia
    Realize that @shawn12011 is the master of trolling, there are deckchairs on the DCU roster -- alot of them. I would rate Fisher, O-A, Brillant, and Segura as deckchairs. Moreno, Felipe, Birnbaum and Canouse are deckchairs with comfy padding. Yow, Nyemann and Pines are simply too raw to classify right now. Kamara, Asad, Arriola, Hamid and Flores are not deckchairs.

    BTW, my guess is that Moreno would have considered a deckchair when first acquired. Sure, he lit up the field with Bolivia in a match, but so did that forgettable guy from Panama we had a few years ago. At the time Jaime came here, he was buried on the Boro bench. He had potential yes, but was not a can't miss type of signing. Similarly, Carlos Llamosa was a janitor at the World Trade Center before he came up the ranks.
     
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  18. pr0ner

    pr0ner Member+

    Jan 13, 2007
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I might rate a couple of your comfy deckchairs a little higher than you (and put Mora somewhere in that comfy deckchair/not deckchair bucket), but otherwise, I agree with your player ratings.
     
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  19. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    MLS is a deckchair league but it makes all the difference whether you have well-maintained solid deckchairs with clean fluffy padding or broken-down (some that collapse when you sit on them) chairs with no padding and cigarette burns on them.
     
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  20. pr0ner

    pr0ner Member+

    Jan 13, 2007
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd say MLS 3.0 is trying to move away from that, but I think as long as there's a salary cap and (I hate to say this) international player limits, teams will still have plenty of plug and play players. Especially as the league continues to expand.
     
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  21. griffin1108

    griffin1108 BigSoccer Supporter

    Dec 5, 2003
    Virginia
    I completely forgot about Mora -- but given my age I forget many things. I would say Mora is not a deckchair because DCU's form cratered when he was injured and a revolving cast of characters were unable to replicate Mora's importance to the squad which is the essence of not being a deckchair because deckchairs are fungible.
     
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  22. Hedbal

    Hedbal Member+

    Jul 31, 2000
    DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Mora's slide tackling ability is well above deck chair level.
     
  23. pr0ner

    pr0ner Member+

    Jan 13, 2007
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  24. UnitedBorn

    UnitedBorn Member+

    Dec 7, 2015
    301
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Might need some new trousers
     
  25. Eastern Bear

    Eastern Bear Member+

    Feb 27, 1999
    Great Falls, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Some serious talent being mentioned while they try to lock us in for two seasons worth of tickets. Flores is the real deal and I hope DCU gets him.
     
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