2019 Other Teams Thread

Discussion in 'Columbus Crew' started by Kyle Crew, Dec 10, 2018.

  1. Big J 0526

    Big J 0526 Member+

    Columbus Crew SC
    United States
    Sep 8, 2010
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    good news for us
     
  2. catfish9

    catfish9 Member+

    Jul 14, 2011
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  3. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    I think that it was Ives who tweeted today that 13 YNT positions were vacant. That's absolutely insane. USSF is an atrocity. And if Berhalter had half a brain he would have pursued the LA Galaxy job instead of the USMNT job since the Galaxy job is really much better. But as someone who watched Berhalter for 5 years, it's not surprising at all that he lacks more than half a brain.
     
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  4. MLSinSTL

    MLSinSTL Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Mar 20, 2009
    Ohio - near a city
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  5. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Sending a quick shout out to Truck Stop Jimmy's Cleveland Browns and all the jabronis who pointed to the Browns master plan and dedication to winning as an example of what we could expect in Crew land. Big day for those guys.
     
  6. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fan of the year post right there.
     
  7. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd have to look it up but it may partly be because the teams dont exist.

    Its complicated, but basically there is no permanent U17, U19 or U21 team. (I may be wrong on the 17's)

    Rather, they assemble a team for a specific competition which may be as much as 2 years away.

    For example, someone contacted me a few years ago to find out how to get his 20 year old son a shot at the U21s.

    I had to explain to him that the "U21" team that was being assembled was actually made up mostly of 18-19 year olds in.preparation for the U21 FIFA world cup which was 18 months or so away. Kids who were actual U21's at that moment would age out before the tournament, so theres no point bringing them in.

    You want a team of guys who have been playing together, under a particular coach, for at least a year, even 2.

    So 3 years before an age group world cup they hire a coach FOR THAT CYCLE, and his contract expires whenever the team gets eliminated or else wins the tourney or whatever

    Sigi was the 21's coach a few years ago and his contract -and the team - ended the day they got bounced.

    SO to make a long story incredibly longer, there may not be coaches for those age groups because we're too far out from a particular competition and said team does not exist
     
  8. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    I've seen it all. Archer has become not only Fox News type propaganda for Black and Gold Boulevard, but for the USSF.

    Woof.....
     
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  9. Dan Milton

    Dan Milton Member

    Nov 25, 1998
    I must say I was not impressed by the Brown's loss to the Bengals or encouraged in my hopes for the Crew's success in the upcoming season! An organization that allows a team like the Bengals to get their second win of the season does not build confidence in the organization! Here is hopeing the Crew's decision makers are doing a better job! So far I have hopes for the new Crew players we have brought in!
     
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  10. TheRealBilbo

    TheRealBilbo Member+

    Apr 5, 2016
    From a player perspective, my understanding is the Olympic Development Program (ODP) is the formal player ID process...

    https://www.osysa.com/odp/

    Players 'bubble up' from state to region to national team. Coaches at each level move players up to the next level.
     
  11. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    Both Browns and Bengals hired new coaches last year. Both looked in over their head. Browns are trying to fix issue by finding a new coach. Bengals are likely to keep coach who took team from 6-10 to 2-14. Browns are likely to win a playoff game before Bengals ever do.
     
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  12. catfish9

    catfish9 Member+

    Jul 14, 2011
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    ;)o_O:rolleyes::ROFLMAO::whistling::confused::cautious::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

    Umm, I'll keep this short... ODP is a joke for player identification. Not really feeling like taking time to explain it to you - just take it as fact.
     
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  13. AC30

    AC30 Member

    Apr 29, 2007
    Columbus OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
  14. catfish9

    catfish9 Member+

    Jul 14, 2011
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  15. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Let me just second this.

    ODP, whatever it might have once been - and in most cases all it amounted to was an opportunity for the USYSA state coach to make 100k a year - at this point it's less than nothing.
     
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  16. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You don't need it when you have real professional teams with real scouting departments and real youth programs--and in some cases real USL teams.

    Sure the odd kid gets missed. But that happens in MLB, the NHL, and the NFL--and usually they eventually get found--like Cam Atkinson or Kurt Warner or Mike Piazza. It will happen less and less in MLS as the league improves.
     
  17. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Bengals tanked. I mean, obviously they were poor, but benching Dalton midseason to give their backup QB a look (all losses) was vintage tank commander. They wanted that #1 pick.

    Losing AJ Green & their #1 OT pick for the season in camp didn't help. Getting those two back + Burrow + some smart drafting/FA signings to boost the OL, LB, & WR corps and Cincy could be decent next year. They have $55 million in cap space, though Green would take a chunk of that.

    Who Dey!
     
  18. KHT_Crew

    KHT_Crew Member+

    Mar 29, 2003
    Queen City, OH
    Every Browns fan 1999-2018....
     
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  19. catfish9

    catfish9 Member+

    Jul 14, 2011
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That is not true. The DA is not THE answer to identifying talent. I'm deep in the youth scene and I see many players/teams locally and nationally that are as good or better than those on DA squads. Our country is too big and the DA doesn't cast a big enough net. But as I said above, ODP is dead as far as talent ID goes.

    I will say that I am still a supporter of kids doing ODP because the more opportunities we can provide for kids to have different experiences, playing with different players and under different coaches, the better the overall development will be top to bottom. It's actually a pretty cheap additional training opportunity. But the talent level is pretty low.
     
  20. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  21. Crew96Fan

    Crew96Fan Member+

    Jul 27, 2013
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  22. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
    Is this where we not the Browns hired the underwhelming Kevin Stefanski as head coach?
     
  23. crew2112

    crew2112 Member+

    Jan 25, 2008
    Dayton, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Noted and disappointed.
     
  24. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Dodged a bullet on Josh McDaniel.
     
  25. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Dead on. Its hard to be excited about Stefanski the day after his offense got its ass handed to it but McDaniel has disaster written all over him.

    Football coaching is the only profession where your interviee pitch is " well, I really sucked at my last job but now I know what not to do" and not get laughed out of the room.
     

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