Sebastian Soto at Austria Klagenfurt

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  1. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Except for the most part his "club situation" is due to injury. I still think if he's fit and contributing there's no way a team with 14 points "freezes him out" at this time. The idea that "we don't want to waste time on his development" trumps "we'd rather not drop another league" is kinda nutso.

    But Soto has to stay healthy long enough to make his case on the field.
     
  2. glutton4Bolts

    glutton4Bolts Member+

    United States
    Mar 18, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He was certainly given a spot in the last roster in October:

    https://www.ussoccer.com/stories/20...-roster-for-u-23-usmnt-training-camp-in-miami

    But overall his inability to stay healthy and less than desirable club situation may really hinder him. Taking a look at that roster and I am seeing a big bias towards the MLS.... I guess that is a common theme up and down the system :-(
     
  3. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What other Euro-based U-23 center forwards are not getting called but should?

    Toye has scored in consecutive friendlies for the U-23 team (El Salvador and Japan) so he should go. Ebobisse will be on the upcoming roster, and he had 10+ goals for Portland. He should go.

    Soto is regularlly called up to the U-23 team after the U-20 WC but he is injured.

    On the upcoming team, Saucedo, Sabbi, Lewis, Lennon are wingers, not in competition with Soto.

    I generally don't have many problem with the U-23 roster selections.

    The other U-23 forward options in Europe are rather unconvincing.. Haji Wright?
     
  4. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    He's been injured. It is impossible to know. He made the bench for a sr. game in Oct. then promptly hurt himself again. I'm not saying I know he was good enough to grab a slot, but there's simply not enough data to know either way. Been a tough 6 months for Soto due to contract and injuries. But if injuries aren't chronic it will be a short blip in his career. He'll need to get healthy and prove himself again someplace, H96 or US team or next club.
     
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  5. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A Chilean article that hints that Ajax is interested:

    After his exhibition at the U20 World Cup, Ajax appeared as one of those interested in the American who can still act for Chile. This is the panorama of the striker with little space in Hannover 96.

     
  6. SloterHaus

    SloterHaus Member

    Dec 14, 2018
    He is now back in full training and with a new coach. It could be an important last month for him this year.
     
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  7. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  8. Pl@ymaker

    Pl@ymaker Member+

    Feb 8, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wonder if Ajax are still interested? That would be a nice move for Soto and us fans:thumbsup:.
     
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  9. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Soto made the matchday squad. Just needed 1 guy to be suspended and 2 to be unfit/injured to make it. Who knows whether he'll play or not.
     
  10. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It really sucks for Soto to be relegated to the reserves of a Bundesliga.2 side after proving he was worth so much more than that at the u-20 FIFA World Cup.

    One would think he had a lot of suitors, but I imagine that has cooled since... If he could latch onto Jong Ajax for the rest of the season, maybe play a little for both the senior team and Jong Ajax next year, and make the jump full time the following year, I think he still would be on the right track.

    Only problem with that is a lot of variables need to fall into place.
     
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  11. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  12. glutton4Bolts

    glutton4Bolts Member+

    United States
    Mar 18, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  13. glutton4Bolts

    glutton4Bolts Member+

    United States
    Mar 18, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Word. I am generally in favor of young USMNT hopefuls trying their hand in Europe... but riding the bench for a Bundesliga 2 Team is not the kind of experience Soto needs. He would be better off starting in the MLS.
     
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  14. glutton4Bolts

    glutton4Bolts Member+

    United States
    Mar 18, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Poor kid can't sniff the field and they are falling further in the 2nd division.... must really be in the doghouse to not get any playing time.
     
  15. tomásbernal

    tomásbernal Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You act surprised. He came back from a successful WC and his club wanted to sign him to a new contract (with one year left on his current) and he balked. Pretty good reason for them to not give two shits about his development. Pure speculation on my part, but if he's not the best option currently then his team has no interest in giving him minutes to continue to develop him.
     
  16. glutton4Bolts

    glutton4Bolts Member+

    United States
    Mar 18, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Makes sense... and puts me at ease somewhat about his situation. It is kind of a lost year for him... but at least he is assured to get out of that sinking ship. Perhaps he will get a shot to score some goals if they drop a bit further into the relegation zone of Bundisliga 2? Hannover has really gone the wrong direction.
     
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  17. tomásbernal

    tomásbernal Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I sure hope he gets into a good situation after this season. He was very good at the World Cup.
     
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  18. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    I think his injuries have been the problem (after the initial freeze out). At some point, if their low gf production continues, they will need to toss him in. Ducksch got a YC in his sub appearance today fwiw.
     
  19. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I think if he doesn't extend (which seems very doubtful) he should leave in Winter. Staying the full season could make him waste the full season. H96 are already having players like Gudra and Stehle from the U19 train with the 1st team. If your the club integrate players who would stay or one who wants to jump ship? They might not play before Winter break but Camp is a good way to change things......Even fans think the same, if he stays and doesn't extend don't think anyone wants him playing when others are knocking.

    besides H96 only play 1 uptop, struggling club very unlikely to start a youngster with no real experience uptop. Only 1 game to go before Winter transfer too, which could also open the door for them to loan in someone or buy.

    On top of this, Soto's return to the matchday squads coincides with the cheekbone injury of Teuchert.
     
  20. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    It's probably not his choice. He is under contract.
     
  21. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    yeah but do you allow him to go for free or sell him in Winter while you still can?
     
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  22. Bruce S

    Bruce S Member+

    Sep 10, 1999
    I'm not sure he would go for much.
     
  23. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Something is still better than nothing
     
  24. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    Hamburg need goals - they have 20 on the season. Only Dynamo, Sandhausenm, and Darmstadt have less. Weisbaden also have 20. They are 13th, 7 points off the bottom. I have to think if their goal scoring stays mediocre and Soto looks like he can steal a point or two he will get a good shot.

    With only 1 game left before winter break, I think it's pretty unlikely they make any kind of deal that makes sense for anyone at this point - he hasn't played much recently, so someone would really need to take a roll on an relatively unproven striker - meaning a club is pretty desperate - and is Soto the guy you go for? Or, if clubs aren't in desperate need, they'll wait till June.
     
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  25. The Irish Rover

    The Irish Rover Member+

    Aug 1, 2010
    Dublin
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    Unless his contract has a release clause.

    Then again, why would someone activate it for a player who isn't getting PT now and will be available on a free in the summer.
     

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