Better than the CPC. Deng Xiaoping and Hu Yaobang cleaned up Mao Zedong mess and are the creators of modern China. All Mao and his communist did was set back China 50 years. Oh and kill tens of millions of non political class people.
Your statement in bold is a nonsensical contradiction. You are making a negative claim that socialism is only good for socialists. Before we continue is that what you're actually saying? Let's finish up with 80s Russia before we move onto Yugoslavia or Stalin. Lol.
Systems can't create a quality of life? Some people are happy, others are miserable? You're all over the place. You equivocate so much your commentary renders itself almost meaningless. Do you like Nazis? LOL. If I don't have a Polish parent your reasoning is faulty. That was the point of the original post. The road to Hell is paved with good intentions. Gorbachev probably meant well but he was an incompetent cretin who deeply regrets how things turned out. There was also American intervention in the elections to help things along. And:
There are no contradictions in my statements. Someone who joined in socialist society during WWII and in 1945, socialism became positive for such people. They gained all advantages that society can provide. Those who were not in socialist society during WWII and after, they never gained everything. Many of them lost their homes, private business. Someone who joined in socialist party in 1960, 1970...it was already late, especially if his parents were not members. If you score own goals for a football club, they will bench you. The same is with socialism. You have to accept the entire dogmatic truth of socialism in order to be accepted. It was all predestinated. Ordinary individual couldn't promote the changes of socialist idea. People only accepted this in a sincere or false way. Smaller percent of people actually believed in socialism, other only repeated and tried to blend in, or they were opponents of the system. Socialism was positive for followers and negative for opponents. This sentence is very easy to understand, without any contradictions and shade areas.
As long as people adore the ruling party, they might improve their lives. Socialism took all companies, institutions and they emloyed only people who were party members, without criteria, where they include education, personality, individual quality. No one cared for such companies, they would only sit there and accept salary, while people who never had the support of socialism worked in warehouses, they digged the natural resources, working pro bono actions in railway constructions. Influential party member doesn't not build railway for free, he is the supervisor, CEO, manager. Where I have said, that I like Nazi politics? I only made references about socialism, democracy, with smaller religious stories, where ex-socialists became accepted in churches even though they were atheists until 1990. Who was competent in socialism? Gorbachev was also a socialist, just like leaders before and after him. Ex or current socialist, no differences for me. Of course, USA helped in Berlin Wall destruction. All socialist leaders never had the exit door if they decide to resist. Observe Romania, how their leader ended. Ex-socialists who came later in ex-socialist states tried to takeover some credits for socialist exit. But it was all achieved with USA, West Germany, UK..Vatican who wanted to return back religion in ex-socialist countries. You managed to avoid once again some crucial questions: 1. The percents of victories in socialist countries: 99.8% 2. Who inherited socialist leaders in 1990? 3. The question of confiscations: who made them and why? 4. What was the destiny of socialist opponents. 5. Also, I don't where are you placed currently: Soviet Union, Yugoslavia, or somewhere in between: Hungary, Czech, Slovakia, Poland... 6. You opened small space for the question: Which socialist leader was competent? 7. The questions about gulag, labour camps, prisons are still not opened. According to you, they never existed, it was all western propaganda. 8. Also, your clever attempt where you wanted to make equal: Soviet Union, Scandinavian countries, Yugoslavia.
Do you like Jews? Yes Do you like white People? I dont understand the question Are you really running? beta male Jesse Lee Peterson is comedy gold.
Totti Fan made an objection to me, when I switched from Soviet Union to the Yugoslavia. Softer version of socialism compared with Soviet Union, but with many similarities. Now he made an huge gap and went in Germany, something that doesn't have any ties with communism. Totti, we need to embrace exact geographnical part. Or, will we just skip from Tashkent to Dagestan and Tirana.
@Calcio Pauly , @Falc How is this legal? Why can't Trump or his legal team at this point file a lawsuit? Democrats unveil impeachment articles, as White House slams'baseless and partisan effort
I don’t care, in the meantime , they still have no legal right to do what they are doing in a free country. They are basically giving the president no rights to do anything.
It made perfect sense to anyone who isn't you. You like to think in absolutes, which is why you fail so often.
One day you'll realize that Totti fan is only good for one thing, and I for one, do not want him to leave. Keep him spinning his wheels please
It is though because they are messing and playing games with his presidency and with the American people’s minds. Nadler, Schiff & Pelosi basically lied. If they can do this to a president, they can do it to anyone. I don’t see how any of this can be legal!
He is wandering often between the topics. Labyrint of small trips, collected experiences which are not finished, with fragments mostly, without basic postulate questions: Who?, Why?, What? Origins of something that people make? Why socialist leader wants to be our leader? What does he expects from us? How can servants achieve the appreciation? Video made by pro-Yugoslavs, where they describe all benefits: In comments, mostly fans of Yugoslavia. The language is Serbian. Maybe this cheers you up, Totti Fan. Something is unusual, at first sight. The video shows all possible historic architecture, monuments, like it was all made with the socialist thought. As you can see Totti Fan, there are numerous of fans in comments, because they had nice life after 1945. The video talks about the heroism, equal rights, to all nations....they advertise the fact where 20-25 millions of people visited Yugoslavia, as tourists. Video is made in 1983. Basically, no dislikes or harsh words in comments.
In a strange sense, it is legal. This is a political exercise. But all the House can do is indict the President. It is in the Senate where he is tried. It will fail there as it has with the other impeachment attempts. The abuse of power charge is full of crap. There was no personal benefit. The second charge of obstruction of Congress is a snowflake one. All three branches are co-equal but these assholes think that Congress is superior. The American public is seeing what a farce this is. Same happened to Clinton. He did lie but who gave a f^ck that he lied about his personal sex life. Poor bastard married Hillary.
Yeah Clinton lied about having an affair but at least what he did was pretty bad. Whatever your view on sex while you are married , if anyone of us were to do what he did at work, on company time, we would be fired immediately and would probably be facing some sort of sex harassment lawsuit. No one would be revered. Seeing how Hilary is such a basket case especially since the election, on a personal level, I don't blame Bill for cheating on her. On anoter note, why vote for this on the day of impeachment on USMCA? USMCA: Agreement reached on Nafta trade deal replacement ...
You've said in nice terms that he's an ignorant troll who cherry picks and builds straw man to pigeonhole others into arguments that he can later say he won. In short, a lying weasel, but we all know that already. Keep him busy, I'm enjoying the show more than the impeachement crap going on right now.
He is aware of everything. Only he tries to skip some important parts: reasons, names, timelines, consequences. I don't watch impeachment at all, because it's only a show for spectators. One side has majority in the Senate, other side has majority in Congress. It's suitable for both sides in order to move from much more important things. Artificial conflicts were often made in politics.
Totti Fan Field Trip with Pan Am: Very positive comments in the bottom. One user wrote this: "Beautiful country or countries, but nationalists and their wars ruined it" Historic forgery. Socialists were never replaced with sincere capitalists, democrats, liberals. Only ex-socialists, their family descendants, opinion makers, who say that they are now reformed. Unless if Totti Fan might find one politician and his biography which doesn't have working experiences in socialism: state institutions, companies, party membership. At least one... But I accept that many nationalists went in wars, because they fell on nice words made by socialists. So nationalists were motivated in making changes. But at the end nothing happened. Reformed socialists remained on key positions, pretending to have some multi-party system, oposition, NGO sector. 2:51; 3:03; 3:16 minute: I see Serbian nationalistic cap, called Sajkaca. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Šajkača Cap from countryside, but still it's not identified with Yugoslavism. I don't see so much of prosperity and ecnomic wealth in first 5 minutes. Muslims of Herzegovina jumped from bridge in city of Mostar. When they show Dubrovnik, it's more stylish. That's why Yugoslavia collapsed. More stylish people didn't wanted to finance the carriers of Sajkaca. West VS Orient. Calcio Pauly asked once, what were the differences? Video reveals a lot. In previous video from above, socialists brag with Arena in Pula, Croatian National Theatre in Zagreb. This was all before socialism. They brag with summer tourism. But we don't see summer tourism in other socialist countries. If socialism happened in France or England. We would see socialist video with Stonehenge, Eiffel Tower, Versailles...glorious, amazing socialism...and Druidic rituals and ceremonies.
I figured him. He considers that only his close ones can achieve adequate testimonies, their interpretation only concerns, maybe this circle of his close people got enlarged. Totti Fan doesn't touch anything altruistic in communism, nothing with ideals, wisdom thoughts. All possible testimonies embrace only materialistic experiences: Nuotare nell'oro. His statements worry me, in sense of personal health, illusion conflicts with reality, opponents of socialism shouldn't exist at all, according to them....very strange, haven't met anyone like him. I met ex-sincere or false followers of socialism, but now they say: "Oh my God, we were really convinced that this might work, I entered there in party because of my belief (with many non-verbal and histeric laughs). Those were the times back than, no borders between the states, I had a nice jobs in a city institutions." But, no one travelled much outside of his own republic in Yugoslavia. Why would someone from Slovenia or Croatia travel in Kosovo, Serbia, Macedonia, Montenegro (I don't include coastal Montenegro, because these parts were incorporated much later in Montenegro). Coastal Montenegro was always part of Dalmatia. At least, I appreciate much more real socialists who remained in this thinking after 1990., with atheism, or at least agnostic view. But I don't consider others trustworthy, for deeper friendship. If you can switch at least 2 political systems in only 30 years, something is wrong with such figures. They are ready for anything. If some third system becomes created, they would accept that third system, because it brings again valuable benefits. Benefits are important, but not if you must take the house from someone who is expelled and who lived in your street. The question of joy becomes very obscure, if you can be happy in the house or department which was made with efforts of some other family. Imagine, sitting on the sofa and watching football in foreign household. Totti Fan could be at least be critical because of the negative sides. Positive sides could exist only 2,3 decades, if state has enough money to finance everything and giving for free. Socialism might maybe work in countries with unlimited resources (oil, gas, solar energy, endless agricultural policy). But, for that you don't need socialism. Any system might work in such unlimited resource environment. Every political system would fail, because people would have enough money for their every need. That's why poverty becomes installed in society, with divide and conquer policy. They live better, than we. Lets make a revolution so that we bring them down and install our own group of people. The last and most crucial consequence of communism is general poverty. I don't know any state with great quality of life in all continents, that makes any touch with communism. Also, communist leaders, they all have some personal traumatic experience, when they radically abandon their previous worldview in favor of communism. How can someone with traumatic experiences become a role model, with created cult of admiration, glorification and subordination. Isn't he fragile, weak? For all negative acts, therapists usually blame terrible childhood, personal issues, mental disorders. Every political system has problems, that's why they collapse, mostly from inside. The system can attack its own followers, not only opponents. If some followers don't get what they want, they instantly create vendetta for their leaders...once friends. Grandparents of Gorbachev were in gulag camps. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikhail_Gorbachev So, if you like Marx and Trotskyi, not good.