2019-20 Offseason Rumors & Player Movement Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by Ismitje, Nov 10, 2019.

  1. 007Spartan

    007Spartan Member+

    Mar 1, 2006
    Scottsdale, AZ
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    Just as an aside, when the official twitter accounts of clubs are regularly posting stuff like this about declining to participate in official league talent acquisition mechanisms set forth in the CBA, maybe it is time for a change. I mean, I laughed, but doesn’t exactly lend credibility to the process.
     
  2. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    No, it means that a particular club's FO is incompetent for not participating in the process that 24 other clubs also didn't participate in according to said particular club's social media followers.
     
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  3. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Those last 5 words are why it can't be done away with by league FO fiat.
     
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  4. 007Spartan

    007Spartan Member+

    Mar 1, 2006
    Scottsdale, AZ
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    True, but they could with this next CBA.
     
  5. 007Spartan

    007Spartan Member+

    Mar 1, 2006
    Scottsdale, AZ
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #80 007Spartan, Dec 4, 2019
    Last edited: Dec 4, 2019


    Obviously would be a huge move and could also be part of bringing in Marcelo Gallardo as coach.
     
  6. STR1

    STR1 Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    May 29, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Hadn't Palacios already declined to come to MLS just a few weeks ago? Yes, it definitely be a huge get for the league if it comes true.
     
  7. CANPRO

    CANPRO Member+

    Dec 23, 2002
     
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  8. 007Spartan

    007Spartan Member+

    Mar 1, 2006
    Scottsdale, AZ
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
  9. 007Spartan

    007Spartan Member+

    Mar 1, 2006
    Scottsdale, AZ
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
  10. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    RSL signing Alvin Jones may be an uninspiring addition, but he has two claims to fame: he's Joevin's brother, and he scored this goal:

     
  11. C-Rob

    C-Rob Member

    May 31, 2000
    I miss neg rep.
     
  12. 007Spartan

    007Spartan Member+

    Mar 1, 2006
    Scottsdale, AZ
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  13. RafaLarios

    RafaLarios Member+

    Oct 2, 2009
    Medellín
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Everything they do is irrelevant for that team if Olsen is still in the building
     
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  14. carnifex2005

    carnifex2005 Member+

    Jul 1, 2008
    Club:
    Vancouver Whitecaps

     
  15. 007Spartan

    007Spartan Member+

    Mar 1, 2006
    Scottsdale, AZ
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If this and the Roger Martinez moves come off it is going to start to become difficult to ignore the number of successful, prime age attackers moving from Liga MX to MLS.
     
  16. 007Spartan

    007Spartan Member+

    Mar 1, 2006
    Scottsdale, AZ
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #91 007Spartan, Dec 14, 2019
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    Standout @ the U20 World Cup, currently training with the U23s. Could be another exciting young piece for LAFC.
     
  17. 007Spartan

    007Spartan Member+

    Mar 1, 2006
    Scottsdale, AZ
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
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  18. 007Spartan

    007Spartan Member+

    Mar 1, 2006
    Scottsdale, AZ
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  19. PhillyMLS

    PhillyMLS Member+

    Oct 24, 2000
    SE PA
    Should be interesting to see how the Union's strategy of team building works over the next two years. The common refrain is that "the Union is cheap" but they are trying to spend money on developing players instead of buying them. "We spend by far the most in the league on our academy, USL [and] supplemental roster strategy. We view that as an investment. It’s a sizable one. It’s in the last three years somewhere upward of $20 million. That’s an enormous investment that the players coming through the system will have to justify, and we believe will justify that." (Sugarman quote from here).

    If they instead chose to scale back on the developmental side they could make bigger moves like we see from a few teams. And I know someone is going to say "they should spend money on both" but that isn't the way to sustainable growth. So we get to see over the next year or two if they can build a competitive team around Aaronson, McKenzie, Turner, Real, and de Vreis. Whether that is through those players actually playing or being sold for enough to allow reinvestment in the roster is a whole other question.
     
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  20. STR1

    STR1 Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    May 29, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I think Aaronson will be sold for a good amount if keeps on improving. They can easily make the money back just on him.
     
  21. 007Spartan

    007Spartan Member+

    Mar 1, 2006
    Scottsdale, AZ
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    First, I am really looking forward to seeing how how some of the young academy products on teams like Philly, Dallas, RSL, SKC, etc play. There is some exciting talent that I’m really hoping we’ll see blossom. There are quite a few players, especially on that 22 under 22 list that could be in line for a fairly big transfer.

    When it comes to the Union, I really like their young talent. Really enjoyed watching Aaronson especially and I’m glad that the Union seem willing to give these kids a big role.

    However, I do wonder how big of a gap there really is between what the Union are spending and what others are now spending. I know the Union were early adopters for a lot of this stuff, but other teams are now pretty aggressively following suit. So I suspect that gap in spending is closing or, in at least some cases, has closed on a year to year basis.

    I’m all for seeing teams like Philly, NYRB, and Dallas invest in their academies, USL teams and homegrowns. However, I think it is going to become increasingly difficult to be in the bottom third of league spenders and remain successful while teams like Atlanta, LAFC, Seattle, LAG, etc devote roughly the same resources to youth develop while spending 50 to 100% more on their first teams and many multiples more on transfer fees.
     
  22. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wormgoor to Columbus is official. Word is Zelarayan is a done deal as well.
     
  23. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    With their recent acquisitions it'll be interesting to see just how much playing time Busio and Salloi will get this season for SKC....
    The hiring of Ernst Tanner has really helped the Union take the foundation that Stewart put in place and build upon it. It'll be interesting to see how many more kids make the leap in the next few years.

    I find it quite hysterical how a lot of the MLS scouts say that Arronson has a very high ceiling, while all of the Big Soccer USMNT only dweebs completely dismiss him and gush over Pomykal. I have a feeling that de Vries will be the next Union kid to come seemingly out of nowhere and break through to be a first team contributor. Keep an eye on U2 in USL this season for how Selmir Miscic is doing. Probably within the next 18 months (just turned 16 recently) he'll be signed to a home grown deal.
     
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  24. 007Spartan

    007Spartan Member+

    Mar 1, 2006
    Scottsdale, AZ
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Couldn’t agree more on Arronson. I like Pomykal too, but wouldn’t shock me at all if Arronson ends up the better of the too. He’s strong on the ball, has a great engine, he’s quick enough to separate and he moves with and without the ball really well in space. Has that little magic to play with angles and then aggressively find space. The catch phrase these days seems to be to “breaking lines”. We haven’t produced all that many central mids who can do that. I think this kid might just be one of them.

    Thanks for the heads up on Miscic. I’ll keep an eye out.
     
  25. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    This matches what I’m hearing as well
     

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