Transfer Rumors Abroad

Discussion in 'Colombians Abroad' started by Froboy69, Dec 20, 2013.

  1. villus

    villus Member+

    Jun 5, 2008
    If you're not going to exclude players playing from Mexico I'm not sure MLS should be a death sentence. Obviously strength of league should always be considered but Mexico and MLS aren't really that far off from each other anymore.
     
  2. Baal88

    Baal88 Member+

    May 10, 2008
    Medellin
    Club:
    Independiente Medellin
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    He sucks anyway. A striker who can't score even in Mexico.
     
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  3. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    mls for me is amateur........full of "retired players" and young players that wont make in europe...........also the american young boys arent top quality.....and they dont have a calendar of fifa......
     
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  4. villus

    villus Member+

    Jun 5, 2008
    I think you can still be competitive and contribute playing in MLS, there are examples of a lot of players who have gone to MLS and still done the job for their national team. Rodriguez and Lodeiro both play for Uruguay and have been fine, but it might make sense to send a message as well and drop Roger. I still think if he goes there and tears it up he should be an option for us.
     
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  5. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Lodeiro started losing the starting spot when he left boca for there.........

    Rodriguez is a young boy.....he have got shots recenelty......but dont know if he will ladt in process.......it could be fabian castilñlo and chara cases
     
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  6. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    We have direct Rivals who have players in MLS or who have played recently. Peru, Ecuador, Paraguay, Venezuela.

    If Roger is playing well in Miami (hypothetically) I would not mind him being called up.
    But I prefer him to go to a bigger better league of course.
     
  7. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Peruvians qualify to world cup without players in mls........and Paraguay, Venezuela, Ecuador havent been contenders since 2014........


    Isnt top football.........
     
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  8. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    I never said it is top futbol.
    I did say that our direct rivals are calling players from MLS and (I think) they will be competitive with us. I think all those teams will be neck and neck with us in the standings. Especially if our tactics are bringing us back down to the pack.
    We should not just ignore someone because they play in MLS.
     
  9. villus

    villus Member+

    Jun 5, 2008
    idk I think its a tough situation, but players careers are short and a guy like Roger is in a spot where he's not assured to make a ton in his career and the clock is ticking. I can't knock a guy for going to the MLS if he can get paid pretty well, stay for a couple years and still then make a jump to a better league, also same thing for the guys in China. If they are serious and keep in shape to compete and are performing I'd side with letting them make a living in the short window and give them a chance.
     
  10. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    yeah they can they want....but should be aware of consequences...
     
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  11. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
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  12. Froboy69

    Froboy69 Member+

    Inter Milan
    Colombia
    Mar 25, 2011
    San Diego
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    ...If he leaves Mexico or doesn't go to europe as his next destination? Beause I am sure you would agree that him leaving Mexico for Europe would be good lol.
     
  13. Froboy69

    Froboy69 Member+

    Inter Milan
    Colombia
    Mar 25, 2011
    San Diego
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I can tell you this much, when the MLS finally gets this Miami team he will be treated quite well; the culture fandom in FL is good (look at Orlando SC) and there are plenty of passionate fans in Miami that will do wonders for this new coming team.
     
  14. pepinointer

    pepinointer Member+

    Mar 12, 2007
    Santiago de Compostela
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    all franchise of florida sucks
     
  15. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Miami heat are ok. Tampa Bay lightning and Rays are good

    But you are mostly right

    Orlando City, Jaguars, Buccaneers, Marlins, Dolphins completely stink

    Magic are mediocre

    Florida attendance also sucks though City have done well due to young guys wanted an excuse to party.
     
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  16. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Doubt it. It will take a while to build a real fan base like lets say Atlanta. While soccer is popular in South Florida, most people I know follows other leagues (Colombia, Argentina, Spain, EPL) and could not care less about MLS.

    The key for Beck's team would be to focus on the long term and to enroll enough people to consistently go to the stadium. Buy a few Latin-american super stars, even if they're past their prime, get a lot of local kids, hoping one of them make it big, and make attending the games a memorable event.
     
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  17. kromekote

    kromekote Member+

    May 22, 2012
    Club:
    America de Cali

    Every professional player has the right to choose whatever path they like. Surely, in situations where players at the highest level may only have 10 years to make some real money, many will go with the easier alternative. Leagues like the MLS offer them better financial footing, less pressure, higher chance to succeed. It takes an incredible amount of resilience and patience to see the process thru for a better offer. And let's face it, they're not all gems. The frustration with this MLS/Mex path is that the comfort eventually overshines their ambition to go strive for a higher bar. And it should (and does) have consequences. The exceptions are the minority.

    As it relates to the NT, it's not that CQ can't look at the MLS but the question is simply why? Or putting it in Czd type of metaphors, why marry a '5' when you can have a '10' :D.
     
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  18. HomietheClown

    HomietheClown Member+

    Dusselheim FC 1971
    Sep 4, 2010
    Club:
    --other--
    The funny thing is people were saying Atlanta would never make it and had the worst sports teams and sports fans so I see some similarities. But of Course both situations are different.

    I think what will help is that there is going to be two initial hype years.
    This year Miami will play in an 18K seat stadium in Ft Lauderdale that the Fusion used to play in (renovated and fancied up.)

    Then they are going to open a nice 26K stadium right near the Miami Airport (scheuled the year of the World Cup 2022) which will hype things up even more.
    They are trying to brand this team as an International team for all of the World so having it right by the airport is pretty cool.

    Just like anything if they win people will come. That obviously helped Atlanta the most.
     
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  19. colombianballa91

    Jul 2, 2007
    NJ
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Attendance is so bad that the rays are playing half their games in Montreal this year
     
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  20. villus

    villus Member+

    Jun 5, 2008
    Yeah I'm not sure situating it in Miami is ideal, it sounds sexy but the crowds are very fickle. Obviously Becks wants to do it in Miami but I'd bet an MLS franchise might have more success playing a little further north in Ft. Lauderdale or something, making it easier to draw in suburban fans from Boca, West Palm beach as well as still get Miami.
     
  21. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I kind of agree, but not sure if it would work further north, after all the Miami Fusion failed at Lockhart stadium in Fort Lauderdale. OTOH, the Marlins stadium would be almost next door and the Marlins have the worst MLB attendance at 10k per game, and they have won the "World Series" twice.

    All in all, I think the MLS is reaching saturation point and that the Miami franchise is more of a pipe-dream than a viable project in a city with 4 other major sport franchises that struggle heavily to draw fans in.
     
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  22. villus

    villus Member+

    Jun 5, 2008
    Yeah the idea of soccer in Miami always seems to be a great idea on paper and maybe Becks star power can make it work, but it seems for sure risky. MLS seems to be knocking it out of the park with the cities they are adding, the quality of the soccer doesn't even necessarily matter as much, its more about the atmosphere and growth of the sport I think. If it works well in Miami it would be a big boom for MLS, but those franchise fees are getting mighty steep and will only climb.
     
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  23. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I'm not sure if a small percentage decline qualifies as "knocking it out of the park", but TV rights and franchise fees in modern sports are completely insane.
     
  24. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Nba is struggling with national tv ratings. Must be cuz the east sucks.
     
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  25. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    LOL. You are at least partially right. But it doesn't help that the NBA is putting so much emphasis on their subscription service and kind of starving out TNT and ABC. That plus so many stars moved that you're not sure who to follow early in the season. Add to that that cable is fading and not all the streaming services offer sports channels definitely hurts.
     
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