Hamid's whole career has been marred by failing to live up to potential, largely because of circumstances out of his control, and this Danish move is the perfect encapsulation of that. This thread may have the highest posts/appearances ratio in YA history though (333 posts per appearance), so he's got that going for him.
He was robbed Goalkeeper of the Year and shut out from the NT. I'm sure it all played a part in this decision; most of all the Danish club resigning their no.1 Just hard to imagine he didn't have any other interest at all.
Which was never going to work in the big leagues of Europe or at FCM, or in the Superliga as such where "old fashioned" 1st keepers are of the past, because all keepers are now expected to be an integrated part of the defense and good at passing the ball ... perhaps Sweden or Norway would have been a good option, but considering his high wages I suspect it would have been difficult for him to find a team. I have been reading the Danish comment sections about this move, and to be honest, both the black wolves FCM supporters and other Superliga fans all seem to think that that FCM made an excellent deal getting this kind of money for him.
How so? He had 1 hell of a season. He's been shut out all year from the NT (probably due to his comments back in January). His Danish club resigned their no.1.
FCM 1st keeper Jesper Hansen is turning 35 a few month from the then possible return of Hamid, so they would not be so interested in extended the contract of Hansen if Hamid was a possible solution as 1st keeper ... Btw, it seems that FCM deliberately were dragging out the negotiations with Hansen while they were also negotiating with MLS and DC United, because the transfer value of Hamid would drop as soon as they resigned Hansen.. FCM and Danish clubs in general just know how to keep an advantage when making deals and doing business, but I do not think MLS and DC United were "robbed" as such. Hamid seem in fairly high demand in MLS, so the transfer fee is kind of fair.
Brøndby signed the former German U-21 keeper Marvin Schwäbe who was considered a highly solid 1st keeper in the 2. Bundesliga while being out on loan from Hoffenheim. But quite honestly, he is considered to be the worst keeper in the Superliga for some of the same reasons why FCM did not wan't to keep Hamid, so I agree that Hamid could probably have been a success in the 2. Bundesliga, but not in the Superliga I'm afraid. We can always argue about the general quality and entertainment value of a highly tactical Superliga, which is kind of acquired taste like the Italian Serie A, but Superliga keepers and CB's are usually of top 4 league quality.
IDK why my post is stupid since you said the same thing that I said but less bluntly. When your national team coach (JK) puts such an emphasis on challenging yourself overseas but instead of betting on yourself and taking the plunge, you stay at home and complain about not getting the opportunity. I don't feel sorry for you. Yes, he had trials in England but he's not getting a work permit so that was completely pointless. As for Bruce accusing my of being a keyboard warrior. We are both talking on a soccer message board pal, so it's a bit of pot and kettle. The point of this place is discussion, just because I'm more critical than you about Hamid doesn't mean you're right or better.
I don't love the GOTY voting system but you have to get away from team statistics (shutouts) to see why the media and player vote has a canyon between it. 750k really isn't that much at the end of the day, but also I doubt many other MLS teams would be willing to spend that kind of money to bring Hamid in, based off their prior resources they've put into goalkeeping (very little). I'm guessing FCM would have sold him for more elsewhere (not in MLS) had they been given the opportunity. If no European team is not willing to put up one million for a goalkeeper, I can't say he'd really be in that high demand. DCU seems more the exception to the rule than the standard.
Performance vs. xG is an individual stat and Hamid was 5th in the league. Matt Turner was 1st by a mile, while Mannone, Johnson, and Guzan were 36th, 23rd, and 8th, respectively. Long story short, Hamid didn't get "robbed" IMO, but it sure as shit wasn't Mannone that deserved the award.
Yeah I think Mannone (and other previous winners) were just the result of being the most agreeable, not the best. Would love to see a ranked voting system, as well as limiting certain voters.
Which is also why I do not really like to compare the general quality of leagues, because some leagues may spend quite a lot of money on attacking players, but then little to nothing on keepers or good CB's and/or are not really that tactical sound. In some leagues they focus more on the physical aspects while some more on the short passing game and so forth. The Danish Superliga is a bit of mixed bag, where you have FC København that are very physical and comparable to a bottom half English PL team in that respect, not really playing attractive soccer, but with plenty of regular NT starters, just not quite the best of the best, but the kind of NT regulars who would be interesting to a mid-table top-4 league team... then you have Amon's FC Nordsjælland, that is all about youth NT players and short-passing and little else, and is kind of an attacking minded "Barcelona" like youth team. Then you have an "Italian" style Hobro that is all about defense, set pieces, the tactical approach from game to game depending on the specific opponent and a few creative attacking players like Sabbi. In any case, I don't think Hamid would have been much of a success at FCM or in a Superliga where the clubs especially focus on keepers and their short passing qualities as an integrated part of the defense ... the 2. Bundesliga, or a Swedish or Norwegian team would have been a better place for him.
Hamid had all the stats that mattered. He had shutouts and saves and save percentages. He was either no.1 or in the top 3. Not to mention, he carried his tea to the playoffs. Of course a guy like Turner deserved a far more shot but he missed like 2-2.5 months of play right?
Those stats don't matter though. Like, if you save 90% of the shots you face, but you're performing exactly at xG, you're not doing anything that any average goalkeeper couldn't. Shutouts are an almost completely useless stat for evaluating goalkeepers - they're a metric for a team's collective defense.
Pretty similar levels to MLS at the end of the day, but also places I wouldn't expect to spend high on goalkeepers either. So, not surprised he ended back stateside. I'm just confused why DC felt the need to spend that much money for a goalkeeper that every other club is panning on. For goalkeepers I'm most interested in xG (when available), transfer fees, and level of league the gk plays in. For other things than statistics, I think it's really important to listen to the experts, which is anyone who has a closer eye on the goalkeeper than us. This isn't always available but I think there are a few cases with Hamid to notice, most recently the lack of NT appearances (goalkeeper coach evaluation), transfer fees (world evaluation), and GOTY voting (player evaluation).
https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2021...-hamid-has-sports-hernia-surgery-miss-8-weeks Now I can see why he wasn't in Jan camp
based on the december game vs el salvador I would ay yes...he started and played very well imo (was sursprised he wasnt with the team in Jan)
More than a year and a half after his European career ended (with one first-team appearance), why are we still discussing Hamid on Yanks Abroad?
Agree.. but to keep this on topic ... mid-table goalkeeper training in the Danish Superliga (by Spanish Iñaki Caña who has now become 1st team GK coach at Arsenal) :
Close to a move to Dundee United: https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport...ews/bill-hamid-answers-dundee-united-29297258 Dundee United have made a move for US international keeper Bill Hamid. United are trying to land the 32-year-old shot stopper. Hamid is expected to arrive in Scotland on Monday for talks and the move is subject to a work permit being issued. The American has eight caps and is a free agent after leaving DC United at the end of last season.