At some point, you can’t fix stupid. Refusing to drop a gun at a school, with the current events going that we have is just asking for it.
Thieves rob jewelry in Miami, then hijack UPS truck and its driver. Wild car chase in Miami and surroundings. Truck gets stuck in afternoon traffic. Thieves, driver, bypasser shot dead in exchange with cops. https://miami.cbslocal.com/2019/12/05/coral-gables-police-investigating-armed-robbery-miracle-mile/ “The armed suspects engaged law enforcement, opened fire, exchanged fire between law enforcement and the suspects,” explained George Piro, Special Agent in Charge of the Miami Field Office. “Unfortunately, the suspects are now deceased, but also two additional innocent civilians deceased.” The dead include the kidnapped UPS driver, who has been identified by friends as Frank Ordonez, and a innocent bystander killed in their car. No word from law enforcement whether shots fired from the kidnappers’ weapons killed the UPS driver and the bystander.
Four confirmed dead after Pensacola Naval Air Station shooting Escambia County Sheriff’s Office confirmed an active shooter is dead after opening fire on multiple people at the Naval Air Station in Pensacola. At a press conference, officials confirmed that three victims have died and several are wounded, including two deputies. https://twitter.com/i/events/1202941575589842944?s=13 I remember being in a lockdown situation when the Navy Yard shooting occurred. If they're not safe in a military installation, what does that say about us?
"a" innocent bystander?!?!?! Good god, Miami CBS Local, do you have no editors? I will not even comment further about "a" bystander killed in "their" car (possible the bystander was gender neutral).
I'm with you on the "a," but since the victims have not yet been identified, the "their" seems not only appropriate, but inevitable?
Yes, I agree. Some of the victims have been identified, but not the innocent bystander. Without knowing the gender of the innocent bystander, using the plural has become standard. However, read the entire sentence: "The dead include the kidnapped UPS driver, who has been identified by friends as Frank Ordonez, and a innocent bystander killed in their car." The comma after Ordonez merely indicates the identity of the UPS driver and not necessarily two independent clauses. The sentence, without the identifier could read: "The dead include the kidnapped UPS driver and a innocent bystander killed in their car." This could indicate that the two dead people (the kidnapped UPS driver and "a" innocent bystander) were killed in the car where they both were located and, possibly, both owned, identified as "their car." Of course, we know the intent of Miami CBS Local [undoubtedly, as Stephen Colbert would say, "Miami's News Leader"]. However, I choose not to give Miami CBS Local any benefit of the doubt. If the station cannot get "a" and "an" correct, they deserve no credit for the use of commas.
Perhaps, it should be "use grammar properly." Noun and verb agreement. There is quite a bit of debate on this subject among the grammar "nazi" set. If it was "everybody" then it would clearly be "uses." That is clear. Some see the word "every" as the important term, with "every man and woman" being the same as "everybody," and, thus, singular. Others see it, essentially, as "Every man" and Every woman," as two separate groups of people, and, thus, plural. I come down in the second group, but I am a bit agnostic on the subject.
Something about a Muslim ban: Pentagon spokesman Chris Garver says that the suspect in the #Pensacolashooting was taking part in a three-year training program due to conclude in August 2020.The shooter was one of 852 Saudis in the U.S. for military training on Friday, Garver says.— Dan Lamothe (@DanLamothe) December 6, 2019 I mean, off course is more complex than that but nevertheless ironic.
Was there an exchange with the cops or is that part of a cover up? In any case, the police action/ reaction to this is simply mind boggling. I watched this video and can't comprehend it. These guys basically used civilians cars and drivers as shields and unloaded 200 bullets in a busy street. F**** CRAZY!
I love how, if one didnt watch the video, they wouldn't be able to determine if you're talking about the cops or robbers using civilians as shields and unloading 200 rounds. The ambiguity drives the point home.
If you think there was ambiguity, I am happy to clarify, I was talking about the cops. The way they handle this hostage situation was nothing short of reckless and stupid.
I'd agree with this. I read a report in which local law enforcement acknowledged that the LEO's accounted for at least 200 rounds fired. That is an absurd amount of shots fired for two assailants. It wreaks of of what I have always consistently posted which is that police officers simply are not trained to handle these situations. Regarding the tactical side of things, even if and I am assuming this is the case that the robbers fired first, there was no real urgency to return fire. The UPS van being stuck in traffic was not going anywhere. Lock down the area and wait it out. Allow an opportunity for a dialog for the safety of the UPS driver and everyone in the immediate area. Allow a SWAT team to get on scene since they are the ones that actually do have the training and go from there Once an investigation is completed I think we'll find that at the least the UPS driver was killed by a bullet/s of a LEO's weapon.
If I were the family of the driver or the stand-byer, I’d sue all the police departments involved. IRRC there were at least four PDs involved as the chase went through several municipalities and two counties.
Good luck with that. Courts are pretty blue lives matter and itd be a rough go. A recent court said bfd to a guys home being blown to bits by cops during a standoff, just for a recent example.
Actually, they have accused the PD's of basically murdering the driver. This poor dude was on his first day on the job. You can bet they will sue and they will have a strong case!
Read an article were the police said it's unclear who shot the UPS driver and there needs to be an investigation that could take months or even a year. Infuriating. The full video (i.e. one that doesn't fade to black or cut the shooting out) shows the police lighting him up.