Nothing to see here. Arsenal vs Norwich City- December 1st, 2019.

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by MilesW, Nov 29, 2019.

  1. thebigman

    thebigman Member+

    May 25, 2006
    Birmingham
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I don’t agree that the cms are good
     
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  2. wrench

    wrench Member+

    May 12, 2007
    NYC
    Club:
    Arsenal FC

    Today! Not the norm. I would take Guendozi any day over present day Ozil. Unfortunately, I am not the coach. And I'll repeat, the coach should watch this game a few more times. They need change. I'm not sure if they have the bodies to make the changes, but that is what is required.
     
  3. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Guendouzi has been poor this season and isn’t offering much at all.

    In an attempt to balance the team, we need to drop Lacazette. He offers nothing to the team.
     
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  4. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Guendouzi is averaging 1 successful tackle every 110 minutes this season.

    Ozil is averaging 1 successful tackle every 143 minutes.

    Not really a huge difference.
     
  5. Deep Wilcox

    Deep Wilcox BigSoccer Supporter

    Jun 5, 2007
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So lets say they play a 4-4-2 ( I know its just an approximation). Auba and Lacazette up top, with Ozil as a left wing (attacking mid). As someone said, Lacazette is sort of redundant in this set up, and we should be a 4-5-1 with 2 Dmids because our defense is shaky. And I have seen lineups that seem to imply we were in a 4-5-1 with 2 d-mids. But we aren't. More of a 4-3-3.

    Then the backline looks like Kolasinac-Mustafi-Luiz-Chambers, with both fullbacks pushing up to add width to the attack..

    That leaves Xhaka and Guendouzi as holding mids, and Willock doing God knows what. Guendouzi is way too soft to play as a d-mid. The outside backs get caught out trying to provide width in the attack, and BANG: Norwich looks like Barcelona springing a counter attack.

    Our personnel needs attention; but much of this can be fixed. We can be a mid table side and not one bound for relegation with the players we have.
     
  6. Shen-O

    Shen-O Member+

    United States
    Jul 26, 2005
    Los Angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Freddie out
     
  7. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    ...do you really think this team is relegation-bound?

    The form is bad, but sheesh. We made a European final 6 months ago, we're not getting relegated.
     
  8. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    I didn't get to see the game live because of the fine german DIY traditions of Putz, Feinputz and Farbe

    However I was quite worried when I saw that lineup.

    LT is the only midfielder we have who provides genuine defensive pressure with his mobility - at least when he was in form. Yet he doesn't play and we have Xhaka at 8? Douzy seems wildly out of form right now.

    It is just to easy to slice through that midfield.
     
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  9. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So, our total xG for the last 3 league matches is:

    0.9 @ Lester
    1.6+pen @Soton
    1.0+pen @Norwich

    Not sure what exactly that tells us, except maybe that Soton was a crazy, breathtaking, wide-open match at times.
     
  10. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    It tells us we are shit
     
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  11. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes of course we are. But if only the analytics were that simplistic.

    Mighty Leicester had 1.4 xG when they beat us, which is less that the 1.6 we had vs Soton, which was a draw.

    There's obviously a whole lot more to it than just tracking total xG per game.
     
  12. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    You can't mix xG numbers between games. Leicester is a much better defensive team than Southampton and Arsenal's xG against them was only 0.9.
     
  13. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Per game xG numbers should also be taken with a grain of salt. Crazy stuff can happen in a single game, and ninety minutes isn't a huge sample size to begin with.

    More important to look at rolling averages and trends.
     
  14. Walia Ibex

    Walia Ibex Red Card

    Arsenal
    Ethiopia
    Oct 2, 2019
    We have drawn 3 matches to all 3 relegation level teams
    2-2 Watford
    2-2 Southampton
    2-2 Norwich

    After seeing those results we undeservedly scratched off a point against the first two and deservedly a draw yesterday. Norwich team which is mostly domestic players from the home islands are so slow and plodding but they took their chances and scored. Every player on the field starting played poorly with the exception of Lenoand Aubameyang. Xhaka was ok and so was Ozil. Everybody else was horrid, to very poor to bad. There needs to be major changes lineup wise vs Brighton or we are relegation bound soon and that's not hyperbole.
     

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