15’ in. this SHU:MU game could use a caution. A few reckless challenges have gone on without a caution and it’s getting chippy now.
Am I correct in understanding that this type of offside decision does not require the assistant referee to delay the raising of the flag? https://streamable.com/krkuw
I guess the first question is...what offside? That said, the first offside decision is very close and with VAR in play should result in a delayed flag (if the AR thinks it was offside, that is) so that this goal could have been awarded after review. The second decision wasn't even close, and if he raised his flag for that, delayed or otherwise, that's simply poor.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/23/sports/premier-league-var-mike-riley.html?login=email&auth=login email “They’re trying to suit the world game,” Riley said of IFAB. “We’re trying to suit the Premier League.”
In any place but England, it requires the delaying of the flag. Anywhere with VAR but England, this would have been a goal. But England knows better, so you get this.
I really hope his call was with the first offside decison. But the timing of the flag and the lack of a delayed flag tells me other wise.
He was certainly calling the first offside, perhaps (incorrectly) determining that no attacking move was likely because the player was moving backward.
I was gone killing Bambi all weekend so just watched my City match. It is sad that the disallowed goal on that Offside call doesn't even warrant discussion anymore. It is just the way it is. Has anyone put together a number of how many goals VAR has pulled out of the net this year as compared to how many PK's it has created? Just curious...
Has to be a net negative, especially as they seem to refuse to allow for wrongful offside calls goals being added (as per Wolves this weekend).
Matchweek 14 Newcastle - Man City Referee: Chris Kavanagh. Assistants: Sian Massey-Ellis, Gary Beswick. Fourth official: Oliver Langford. VAR: Andre Marriner. Assistant VAR: Andy Halliday. Burnley - Crystal Palace Referee: Peter Bankes. Assistants: Adam Nunn, Neil Davies. Fourth official: Geoff Eltringham. VAR: Anthony Taylor. Assistant VAR: Nick Hopton. Chelsea - West Ham Referee: Jonathan Moss. Assistants: Marc Perry, Eddie Smart. Fourth official: Stephen Martin. VAR: Andy Madley. Assistant VAR: Derek Eaton. Liverpool - Brighton Referee: Martin Atkinson. Assistants: Lee Betts, Daniel Cook. Fourth official: David Coote. VAR: Craig Pawson. Assistant VAR: Andy Garratt. Tottenham - Bournemouth Referee: Lee Mason. Assistants: Scott Ledger, Mark Scholes. Fourth official: Stuart Attwell. VAR: Paul Tierney. Assistant VAR: Constantine Hatzidakis. Southampton - Watford Referee: Michael Oliver. Assistants: Stuart Burt, Simon Bennett. Fourth official: Graham Scott. VAR: Jarred Gillett. Assistant VAR: Andy Halliday. Norwich - Arsenal Referee: Paul Tierney. Assistants: Constantine Hatzidakis, Harry Lennard. Fourth official: Gavin Ward. VAR: Michael Oliver. Assistant VAR: Neil Davies. Wolves - Sheffield Referee: David Coote. Assistants: Peter Kirkup, Nick Hopton. Fourth official: Martin Atkinson. VAR: Stuart Attwell. Assistant VAR: Dan Robathan. Leicester - Everton Referee: Graham Scott. Assistants: Richard West, Simon Long. Fourth official: Jonathan Moss. VAR: Simon Hooper. Assistant VAR: Mark Scholes. Man Utd - Aston Villa Referee: Craig Pawson. Assistants: Ian Hussin, Darren Cann. Fourth official: Anthony Taylor. VAR: Kevin Friend. Assistant VAR: Stephen Child. Moss with the London derby, Kavanagh has an interesting away match for Man City.
Matchweek 15 Crystal Palace - Bournemouth Referee: Anthony Taylor. Assistants: Gary Beswick, Adam Nunn. Fourth official: Robert Jones. VAR: Chris Kavanagh. Assistant VAR: Daniel Cook. Burnley - Man City Referee: Jonathan Moss. Assistants: Marc Perry, Eddie Smart. Fourth official: Martin Atkinson. VAR: Graham Scott. Assistant VAR: Andy Halliday. Chelsea - Aston Villa Referee: Chris Kavanagh. Assistants: Daniel Cook, Sian Massey-Ellis. Fourth official: Darren England. VAR: David Coote. Assistant VAR: Nick Hopton. Leicester - Watford Referee: Craig Pawson. Assistants: Lee Betts, Ian Hussin. Fourth official: Anthony Backhouse. VAR: Peter Bankes. Assistant VAR: Peter Kirkup. Man Utd - Tottenham Referee: Paul Tierney. Assistants: Constantine Hatzidakis, Harry Lennard. Fourth official: Stuart Attwell. VAR: Michael Oliver. Assistant VAR: Stuart Burt. Southampton - Norwich Referee: Kevin Friend. Assistants: Mark Scholes, Adrian Holmes. Fourth official: Lee Swabey. VAR: Simon Hooper. Assistant VAR: Andy Garratt. Wolves - West Ham Referee: Andre Marriner. Assistants: Scott Ledger, Simon Long. Fourth official: John Brooks. VAR: Andy Madley. Assistant VAR: Stephen Child. Liverpool - Everton Referee: Mike Dean. Assistants: Darren Cann, Dan Robathan. Fourth official: Anthony Taylor. VAR: Martin Atkinson. Assistant VAR: Andy Halliday. Sheffield - Newcastle Referee: Stuart Attwell. Assistants: Richard West, Derek Eaton. Fourth official: Jarred Gillett. VAR: Andre Marriner. Assistant VAR: Scott Ledger. Arsenal - Brighton Referee: Graham Scott. Assistants: Simon Bennett, Neil Davies. Fourth official: Tim Robinson. VAR: Jonathan Moss. Assistant VAR: Marc Perry. Tierney with his first EPL "top six" clash of the season as Mourinho revisits Old Trafford. Dean in charge of the Merseyside derby.
"Top six" matches: Liverpool - Man City (Community Shield): Atkinson Man Utd - Chelsea: Taylor Man City - Tottenham: Oliver Liverpool - Arsenal: Taylor Arsenal - Tottenham: Atkinson Chelsea - Liverpool: Oliver Man Utd - Arsenal: Friend Man Utd - Liverpool: Atkinson Liverpool - Tottenham: Taylor Chelsea - Man Utd (Carabao Cup): Tierney Liverpool - Arsenal (Carabao Cup): Marriner Liverpool - Man City: Oliver Man City - Chelsea: Atkinson Man Utd - Tottenham: Tierney Distribution of these matches in the EPL so far: Atkinson: 3 Taylor: 3 Oliver: 3 Friend: 1 Tierney: 1
Dean's appointment for the Merseyside derby is particularly interesting, as he was replaced in the 2006 FA Cup Final due to him being from Wirral. Even though he has frequently worked as fourth official in games involving Liverpool, his last competitive match in charge of the club was the away game at Stoke in April 2017. He also took charge of the Merseyside derby in December 2016. Atkinson will be involved in two consecutive Liverpool games both at Anfield, working in the middle during Brighton's visit and then in front of the screens for the derby.
The Wirral peninsula is located across the River Mersey from Liverpool. So there was the possibility that there could be some conflict when one of LIverpool-based teams is playing in a high profile match as a Cup Final. But when they are playing each other the conflict is eliminated. In any case Dean is a well-known supporter of the pro team located on the Wirral, Tranmere Rovers, currently in League One (3rd tier). He would not be allowed to referee any of their matches. PH
Oh my. Martin Atkinson put a DFK back in play too soon in the LIV-BHA match. He's on a ceremonial restart after a RC to Allison for DOGSO on handling outside the area. Absolutely correct call. Liverpool is changing keepers and getting the defense and wall set with the new GK calling out instructions from his far post with half the defenders looking back at him when for some reason Atkinson blew his whistle. The free kick was just rolled past the defenders and the GK never even moved. In the end it didn't affect the outcome as LIV won 2-1 but still...
Interesting tidbit from the Chelsea-West Ham match.....West Ham got called for 16 fouls, Chelsea none. Not sure I've ever seen a match where a team didn't get called for a single foul....and still lost.
In addition to who has the Big Six matches, I always find it interesting to see who is assigned the important matches between teams facing relegation. Oliver has had two of these matches so far with the Watford game today. I remember him having a game like Burnley-Newcastle a few weeks ago where both teams really needed a result. While these games don’t have the allure of Champions League or title impact, they are certainly important for teams scrapping to stay out of the Championship (and the huge loss in revenue that entails).
Substitution has happened, GK is ready and in place? (and by this I mean... is on the field of play, somewhere in his goal area...) Good enough for me.
Nope. Unless defending team is significantly delaying (which didn’t happen) the Referee should wait until goalkeeper is ready.