Of course some Liverpool fans are so obsessed with winning the league for the first time since 1990 they would trade a UEFA Champions League title for it in a heartbeat. But yes, the (current) CWC timing is not ideal for Liverpool also because of the fixture list madness in English football over the holidays.
FIFA will ensure its expanded CWC is a success. Even if that means threatening (behind closed doors of course) CAF that it will strip the FIFA calendar treatment for the second AFCON clashing with the CWC. The European clubs would love that. And really, it's long overdue that CAF falls in line with a sensible (quadrennial) frequency. A biennial nations cup is one too many. They can play the AFCON in either the first or second year after the World Cup. The same goes for CONCACAF.
thats really the only thing FIFA can do to win out over the AFCON is to "change the rules" I think there would be a lot of pushback against that, and FIFA would really have to consider if it was worth it. They could technically still have a "successful CWC" (whatever the hell that means, revenues I guess) without the participation of Mane, Salah, and a host of other AFrican stars. Do you really think the absence of a dozen or so African players would make the CWC a failure ? Is that worth the huge uproar which would result in FIFA stripping the FIFA calender treatment of the AFCON ? I dont think so. A bienniel nations cup is one too many according to who ? A lot changes in 2 years in the football world. The fans certainly aren't complaining. I mean it could be replaced by a Nations League, but that would be a little anticlimactic IMO. If another tourneament could be implemented like an expanded Confederations cup, or a tournament with the best African, Asian, Concacaf teams (similar to the old Afro/Asia cup) then I would be for it, but why should the tournament be cut just because some people feel every 2 years is too much ? Frankly I think what is "too many" is another club competition (CWC) right after a bigger and more important one (champions league) has just finished. THis really has to be one of FIFA's stupidest decisions, along with expanding the WC to 48 teams. I actually think this one is even worse.
There's a big difference, though: when the AFCON was in January, the struggle was between a competition on the FIFA calendar and league competitions that are not, so national feds could compel players to show up knowing that FIFA had their back. This is different: we're looking at a struggle between two competitions on the FIFA calendar, and FIFA are likely going to prioritize their own tournament. Clubs will likely be willing to find middle ground with players like Mané in the interest of their long-term relationship, but FIFA aren't going to back any African FA demanding a player miss a FIFA tournament for a CAF one. Btw, this conflict puts an even greater emphasis on how long the Samoura regency in the CAF will last...
Well, the CWC isn’t played during the holidays. Its played when all top UEFA lesgues have a full slate of games scheduled. IOW, its a nussance each year not just in years when English clubs partake in it (EPL clubs just tend to whine more)
Huge uproar by who? CAF? The very confederation that right now depends on FIFA to run its day-to-day affairs? Four out of six confederations deem a quadrennial nations cup to be the right frequency starting next year (fingers crossed on CONMEBOL). Only CONCACAF shares CAF's thirst for a biennial competition. But of course they (C'CAF) no longer have the Confederations Cup carrot to dangle, an important selling point in a top-heavy confederation. C'CAF also does not have as many players in the big five European league as CAF. FIFA is trying to establish a significant revenue channel to lessen its dependence on the World Cup. CAF sensibilities will not stand in the way of it. This isn't your typical "club vs. country" debate. In this scenario FIFA is siding with the clubs. I understand that CAF has to replace lost revenue so they should create a Nations League using existing FIFA dates on the calendar.
The problem is more pronounced for English clubs because of the full slate of fixtures on or around Dec 26, Dec 28 and Jan 1. So Liverpool is looking at: Dec 18 - CWC Semis Dec 21 - CWC Final Dec 26 - Leicester (A) Dec 29 - Wolverhampton (H) Jan 2 - Sheffield (H) It's that brutal three-game stretch starting on boxing day that other leagues don't have. Anyway, it won't be an issue - at least in the context of the CWC - after next year.
I thought OFC will get a full spot in 48 team World Cups, so 2022 is the only remaining time they get 0.5.
Most (all?) UEFA leagues have to postpone the same # of domestic matches in order to play in the CWC (typically 1 league match and 1 cup match). So the fixture/rescheduling issue is similar in other leagues. I recall Madrid having to play Barcelona on Dec 23rd after travelling back from the CWC recently, for instance.
That may be but other major leagues don't commercially exploit the time between Christmas and new year. Bundesliga - on break from Dec 22 until Jan 17 La Liga - on break from Dec 22 until Jan 5 Serie A - on break from Dec 22 until Jan 5 Ligue 1 - on break from Dec 21 until Jan 11 The Premier League plays three rounds from Dec 26 until Jan 2.
OFC opens against the host, but I haven't seen that called a half spot. The OFC champion is at the same tournament as everyone else. If New Zealand loses the interconfederational playoff, they don't go to the World Cup in an earlier round.
Yes. I saw entry list, it is stated that OFC has 0.5 spots. They technically had 0.5 in this 7-team tournament as they always played hosts in so called preliminary round. Whilst that looks OK, this expanded tournament with each team having guaranteed two matches, Oceanic team once again has to play hosts to reach main round.
I don't know if it's been mentioned before here, but ECA favours reducing the number of windows for int'l games each season so, for example, instead of there being four breaks like now (excluding the one in June which occurs after most seasons have finished) there would be four, each containing 3 or 4 games instead of two. I am against that idea because I think it disrupts the rhythm of int'ls.
They will eventually destroy international football... we will see, in 10 years time, what we used to have in basketball. One summer will be reserved for qualification, next summer for finals.
France cancelling their League Cup will hopefully soon be replicated in England. No other major FA in Europe has two cup competitions starting next year. I'm not sure a reduction of national team windows to four (with three matches) is necessarily a bad thing. It may raise the quality of the games as the teams spend more time together.
But longer intervals between breaks will interrupt the rhythm of int'l competitions, both from sporting and commercial viewpoints.
At https://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/id...ys-in-september-october-and-november.2035433/ I proposed to have longer breaks in two of September, October, and November rather than a break every month. For players like Messi whose national team and club are far apart, it would reduce his time on planes, and it might reduce the amount of players who retire from their national team while still playing for a club. This year MLS had a week off between the regular season and playoffs when there were FIFA matchdays in October. The UEFA Champions League has one midweek without games when there aren't FIFA matchdays and two midweeks without games when there are FIFA matchdays. If there were two breaks that were each a week longer, there would need to be games on consecutive midweeks, or the time from the first to last matchday would be longer. To conclude, there are positives and negatives about making a change.
No European country other than England (& by extension Wales) has the depth of professional clubs that England has. 92 clubs in the Football League plus some of those below that are fully professional. Germany comes closest. This is far more important than European or Global club competition. A 2nd cup competition is part of this. Protecting the viability of those clubs is of greater value than enabling the greed of the biggest clubs.
Afcon 2021 dates not set with rumours it will return to January to miss CWC clash That would be a reasonable solution for the (already committed) 2021 AFCON. But I for one really hope we see a quadrennial frequency after that.
Remember when FIFA wanted to push through the expanded CWC and Nations League simultaneously? The new CWC is consolidating the intl calendar and acting as a catalyst for a global Nations League. The Confederations Cup isn't going anywhere, it will just be replaced down the line when every confederation implements the Nation League system. Africa and Asia already have plans to start the process and Europe and Concacaf had a successful rollout. While I don't see the necessity of the new CWC for various reasons (, I'm grateful that This is the way I see a four-year cycle going: Yr 1: World Cup Yr 2: Continental Championships Yr 3: Club World Cup Yr 4: Global Nations League That would mean no biennial African Nations Cup, Gold Cup, or random Copa America. I envision a future combined Concacaf/Conmebol 24-team championship and OFC might merge with AFC to stay relevant. That would essentially make four 24-team continental championships in YR 2 which could be split during the year with regional competitions still taking place at certain points during the four year cycle. YR 3 would start Nations League qualifying which would culminate in the finals of every league in YR 4. Nations League finalists could also automatically qualify for the expanded 48-team World Cup which would reduce the need for WC qualifiers.
Ahmad says AFCON 2021 in Cameroon could return to Jan dates to avoid revamped CWC Looks like the change in date is happening.