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Jose confirmed .. didnt took long

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/50483023

 

This could be fun.[emoji6]

 

Madrid favorite to sign Skriniar ahead of Barca and its coming directly from his agent with the quoted price around €100 million (~£86million) about same we paid for Maguire. Ramos is 33/34 ? so madrid obviously looking to replace him.

https://sports.yahoo.com/amphtml/skriniar-apos-agent-claims-real-185144907.html

 

Yeah! 2 poncies going head to head

 

Its crazy that Varane is still 26 ! If madrid pull this off they will have a excellent set of CBs ..

 

JOSE. Well at least the summer transfer window will be hilarious. Oh Spurs.

 

Definitely something was cooking in background considering how quixkly Jose was announced.

 

We play Spurs 12/4 should be fun.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/nov/19/spurs-sacking-mauricio-pochettino-brutal-inevitable

The article above appears to confirm the point many have made in the past few hours: that Poch had somehow lost the dressing room. And I think it does make sense, considering the fact that he's been at the club for 5yrs, with a squad (its core at least) virtually unchanged during that time.
SAF has mentioned how one of the keys for sustained longevity was to be able to refresh the squad every so often. It avoided potential burnout by keeping the players on their toes and hungry.
It's something that Poch lacked at Spurs thru no fault of his own admittedly and in the end, it was a part of what cost him his job. But as previously stated, there are things about himself that hopefully he will learn from for the next job he takes.
He still seems to be a great fit for United, all things considered at the moment (especially with the way we are run at the moment).​

 

How the deal to bring Mourinho to Tottenham went down.

https://www.skysports.com/football/...ottenham-head-coach-how-the-deal-was-brokered

Mourinho sneaking in the backdoor again, kind of like he did with United as he's been in negotiations with Levy for 3wks now... Very curious to see how long that union will last.

 

lol

 

I'm saying because he wasn't allowed regular, meaningful cash, he failed. You can't consistently punch above your weight (transfer/wage) without refreshing the squad and at least putting different players through the ringer.

He's not a saviour, he's a damned fine manager though. 5 years before Poch, spurs average position was 5th and they made one semifinal in the FA Cup.

Under Poch their average position was 3rd (with a little rounding down from 3.4) and they made the FA Cup semi final twice under him also made a league cup final. He took them to their only European final in over 35 years.

His pedigree with youth/development is excellent if you don't limit it to people from the academy in the last year or two. He did great work with Kane, Son, Alli, Trippier and Rose, not just winks. But his development goes back to Southampton and Espanyol. Still, whilst choosing in the main to buy players on the rise and making them better and managing those clubs, his managerial win percentage is 46%.

He's managed 514 games and won 235, drawing 118 and losing 161. You could say that he doesn't compare well w/ Mourinho and you would be right, but Jose almost exclusively had more money than everyone else to spend and had a talent advantage over all but 1 or 2 teams in his league for his career.

I don't think he walks on water, but I do think without a hostile spendnothing DoF in place, given time, he'd do really well for a top club.

 

Jose Mourinho is back in the Premier League.

These games will be box office. 🍿 pic.twitter.com/3jb8bJ1WNu

— B/R Football (@brfootball) November 20, 2019

 

“I couldn’t be happier and if I was not as happy as I am, I wouldn’t be here.”

📺 Jose Mourinho’s first interview as Head Coach. #THFC ⚪️ #COYS pic.twitter.com/v316eMZM6N

— Tottenham Hotspur (@SpursOfficial) November 20, 2019

Really curious as to how things will unfold there tbh. On the face of it, it kind of looks like a marriage made in hell, but perhaps after Poch's reign a guy like Mourinho could be what that club needs.
Don't necessarily agree with that claim yet, but who knows: we'll see...

 

That dressing room is already dysfunctional and adding mourinho seems mental to me

levy is a clown though

 

I think that's why everyone is so excited about this....

 

https://www.skysports.com/football/...se-mourinho-at-tottenham-as-sporting-director

Would be a huge move for Tottenham if they actually pull this off. Campos is viewed as one of the best talent spotters in the game. And I believe there was some (very loose) talk about him being tapped for the DoF role at United.
Mourinho has already raided Lilles's coaching setup to make up his staff at Spurs and Campos would be the cherry on top. Those are the kind of moves that may give Spurs fans some hope about Mourinho coming in. His new assistant manager, Sacramento (from Lilles), is known for favoring a more progressive style of football.
Would also show that Levy, who akin Woodward, has been known to run the club like a dictatorship centered around him, is able to make the necessary changes for the good of the club.

 

What doesn't make sense to me is that you only bring Mou in to achieve short-term objectives. And it's not at all clear to me what Spurs' short-term objectives even are.To win the league next year they'd have to spend big and have both Pool and City collapse. Winning the CL this year is similiarly far off. Maybe Mou can get them squared away quick enough to still make fourth and then take a crack at winning that title next year?

To me it looks like when Kane never really got back to his absolute best after the ankle issues it killed any realistic hope of them winning huge with this group. If I was Levy I'd be looking to churn the squad again in the next couple years. There's still a solid foundation in that squad and they're going to be an economic powerhouse going forward with the new stadium and at least semi-consistent CL. But what are they trying to win this next year or next with Mou? An FA cup? Letting him do long-term damage to achieve that doesn't add up to me.

 

There are some aspects to this that make it extra interesting;

- Levy despite his own rep knows what he is getting from Mou and appointed him anyway, specifically a guy who will demand and will let the media know if he feels his exec is not delivering

- Mou knows what Levy is like and is onboard anyway, for Mou (cash and working again aside), I think he will genuinely feel he can get a tune from this a squad, a squad he has praised before

- be interesting to see if having Mou will swing some of those who were due to leave to signing new contracts

- too 4 or top 6 is clearly the target and priority, think that is why it happened now and quickly, suspect finishing outside of the top 6 would seriously harm Levy financial plans given he is prepared to take the risk of Mou calling him out

- Mou always said the low-block was necessary for us because our defence and midfield were s££t, so may see a more expansive (for recent Mou) style deployed at Spuds

- with just 3 points separating 5th to 15th and if one or more of the top 4 start to slip, with the squad at his disposal and the bump he usually gets at the beginning can see it working in the short-term

 

People are delusional if they think they’ll see something different from mourinho.

 

It is strange. Jose wouldn't have accepted, but Levy should have offered the rest of the season and 1 more, with an option for a third. But giving him 3 and a half years from the jump is dangerous unless you want to buy out the rest of his contract after a couple seasons.

The only thing I can think of is that Levy shat the bed. Spurs have been on a downward trajectory for near 18 months now. Hard to say if it is just modern players + lack of investment, but Spurs were a pressing team under Poch and they stopped pressing. Maybe Levy got a look at the data and the league table and got scared that with all the investment in that new stadium, they'd either get relegated or be out of Europe entirely and they'd lose the core of the squad as well. In that respect, if he is just trying to ensure they at least get Europa league football next year and maybe win a cup next season then maybe he can justify Jose wreaking havoc with the long term balance that way.