Madrid Wasn't Built In a Day - The Interim Transfer Thread

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How would you rate our summer transfer?

  1. Could not have been better. It was bloody amazing mate

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  2. I'm chuffed

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  3. Cudda and Shudda Done Better

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  4. Not too confident at all guv'nor

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  5. Perez and Zidane are both bellends

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  1. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    26 November 2006
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    Hazard was believed to be a star but turned out to be an entire galaxy. Man's got his own gravitational field and all. :D
     
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  2. MiamiNative0722

    MiamiNative0722 Member+

    25 Mai 2013
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    I get that he's off to a disappointingly slow start, but in all seriousness, there's no doubting who has had the better premier league career.
     
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  3. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    There's also no doubting that one is getting praised for his world Cup performance on here like he was Maradona vs England while the other won the thing.

    I'm in the mood today as you can see.
     
  4. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    28 Mai 2010
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    Real Madrid
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    #804 Saeta Rubia, 15 November 2019
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    Adidas just gave RM a very good hike of 110 ME plus 50 variables from 40 ME in post Ronaldo era. Hazard is a very good player, but brands give out that kind of money because they believe RM can get the biggest stars in post Ronaldo/Messi era. So the whole penny pinching talk about costs of female football team etc is funny. RM football is the backbone and money making machine so other stuff is not gonna hinder Flo. That's why we didn't try to sign Mirotic for the kind of fee Barca were offering.

    Pogba wasn't signed because Flo thought 18 year old Mbappe is worth way more than him. People here kept saying breaking WR for Pogba in 2016 would be a dumb investment anyways and that he wasn't worth 150 ME+ last summer. Well, Flo is the leader of that tribe given he didn't wanna pay 105 ME for Pogba and offered 180 ME for Mbappe a year later.
     
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  5. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    28 Mai 2010
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    I read Women's team's budget will be 3 M. Tacon had a budget of 100k in 2nd division. RM and Barca didn't agree to 15 M collective TV rights deal as they feel it'd be more profitable to telecast on their own channels. So I doubt women's football is gonna make any dent on our finances.
     
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  6. janos audron

    janos audron Member+

    12 April 2010
    They are irrelevant for Madrid`s first squad. Literally. The same as not going after Pogba. He was simply not worth paying the second biggest transfer fee.

    Secondly, given our expenditure since 14/15 - which is less than 200M net and that transfers are done in installments, we can afford top transfers. We can buy Mbappe for 300M and refurbish the squad. For example, bring back both talented fullbacks and midfielder - Odegaard. As cherry on top, we can replace Modrić with Eriksen for peanuts. Tons of options out there.

    As for Bernabeu. It will be financed with long term loan - 575M with 2,5 fixed rate starting with 2023 up to 2049. Suffice it to say, it won`t mess up our transfers.

    Also, discussing just expenditure side of things means absolutely nothing without revenue side.
     
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  7. AriGold

    AriGold Member+

    13 Juli 2007
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    3M?!? We won't be able to afford anything. We might as well declare bankruptcy right now.
     
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  8. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    28 Mai 2010
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    Just checked Pogba's endorsement revenue. Just 4 M despite being at Utd that has one of the biggest global fanbase. Independent also had an article that Utd didn't get expected commercial value from Pogba. Bet Flo knew this would be the case all along. For comparison, Bale earns 6.5 ME despite injuries reducing his commercial value. He used to be 4th in 2016 with 11 M.

    Right now Ronaldo - 44 M, Messi - 35 M, Neymar - 30 M and Salah - 9 M from endorsement revenue. Mbappe only 4 M with Hublot and Nike as his main sponsors. Probably a smart idea to get out of Neymar's shadows and to a more marketable club like RM. He could easily get 15 M as star player at RM from endorsements given what Bale earns now. It's not just about money, but increasing brand value, visibility, BDR chances etc.

    https://www.forbes.com/profile/kylian-mbappe/#a30c3a4792ba

    https://www.forbes.com/profile/paul-pogba/#6ff1e7ac7864
     
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  9. Zidane05

    Zidane05 Moderator
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    18 Juli 2005
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    How much of that 100M is the women's team?
     
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  10. janos audron

    janos audron Member+

    12 April 2010
    Considering how much backing women`s football has at this point, i would be shocked if it would not pay for itself + make a profit.
     
  11. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    28 Mai 2010
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  12. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    26 November 2006
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    You know its the holiday season soo when the spirit of giving has people believing that we'll spend 300 million or more on a transfer fee.
     
  13. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    26 November 2006
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    Let's solve this once and for all:

    PSG are selling Mbappe for 300 to 400 mil. this summer, who here believes that were signing him for this kind of money.

    Hands where we can see them.
     
  14. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    14 Oktober 2013
    Orlando
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    Are we being robbed or arrested in this scenario?
     
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  15. Eddie

    Eddie Member+

    19 Oktober 2005
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    If it's 100% sure that they are selling him, Florentino will be all over it. I don't know if he will bid 300M but i'm pretty confident he'll splash ~250M immediately.
     
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  16. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

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    I think Neymar will join Barca next summer so PSG will hold on to him until 2021. I still expect him to cost 200 ME with a year left given we paid 100 M plus 30 variables for 28 year old.

    In case Mbappe is available next summer, I have no doubt Flo would be willing to go until 300 ME. We have the financial pull after new Adidas deal and 40 ME+ increase in La Liga new TV deal.

    In a world where we spend 35 ME on back ups like Odri, Danilo etc, I just don't see Flo backing out of Mbappe deal for 300 ME when he was bidding 180 ME in 2017. He clearly knows we need players like Mbappe to continue growing commercially and on the pitch. 160 ME on Jovic, Mendy and Militao is more riskier than 300 ME on Mbappe who's a sure thing.

    People were wrong about Hazard and Courtois so maybe let's wait until it's over before acting like it's impossible. I mean, all of us thought Flo won't go beyond 70 ME for Hazard on last year of his deal this time last year. Hazard deal was market changing for players with a year left as well.

    And Flo gave City 18 ME for Brahim when he could have had him for free 6 months later. Doesn't sound like someone who's being conservative. Mbappe world record deal has Flo written all over it after he secured mega deal with Adidas.
     
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  17. MiamiNative0722

    MiamiNative0722 Member+

    25 Mai 2013
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    It requires more than just a number. It requires psg being willing to sell, negotiating with the agent, Mbappe himself wanting to come. Etc. so the odds are always against the move.

    But if the question is would we be willing to put up 300 if everything else aligned, I think Florentino would say yes.
     
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  18. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    28 Mai 2010
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    We have spent significant amount to transition to the next era already. 45 ME each on Vinicius and Rodrygo. 60 ME on Jovic, 50 ME on Militao, 48 ME on Mendy, 40 ME on Courtois, 35 ME on Odri and 100 ME plus 30 variables on veteran star like Hazard. That's good 400 ME+ investment so don't see why we need more squad signings instead of a big Galactico.

    Midfield need some reinforcements, but like said above, we could get great deals like Eriksen for free to go with Case, Fede, Kroos and Odegaard. Flo will never spend 150 ME on Pogba, Coutinho type players. And some solutions are within like Hakimi returning and selling Odri like Theo. Reguilon and Mendy for Marcelo. Mbappe should be top priority whenever he's available.
     
  19. janos audron

    janos audron Member+

    12 April 2010
    Goalkeepers: Courtois, X,X
    Defenders: Reguilon, Mendy, Ramos, Varane, Militao, X, Carvajal, Hakimi
    Midfield: Casemiro, Valverde, Kroos, Eriksen, Odegaard, X
    Forwards: Vin, Rodrygo, Benzema, Jović, Mbappe

    What bothers you 4x4s?
     
  20. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    26 November 2006
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    Good, that's all I wanted to hear. That you believe real Madrid will spend 300 on one single football playee
     
  21. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    26 November 2006
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    You buy Mbappe at the price quoted and all these Xs are filled by Lucas Vazquez. :ROFLMAO:

    Also that midfield is meh af.
     
  22. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    26 November 2006
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    Yeah, but we keep on shaving the price to form an argument. It started with a 400 mil. Rumor that people slashed into 300 here, and now we're cutting it down to 250.

    By tomorrow morning, we're signing Mbappe for two issues of Marca, a handshake and two tickets to Joker dubbed in Chinese.
     
  23. janos audron

    janos audron Member+

    12 April 2010
    The issue being why would you buy Mbappe at that price? He has contractual obligations up to 30.6.2022. If he does not extend, it is game on. You think Flo will pay 300M with one year left on his contract, at the age of 22?

    Those X-s are easily filled with quality solutions. As for midfield. What exactly is meh af in case of that midfield? :laugh:
     
  24. MiamiNative0722

    MiamiNative0722 Member+

    25 Mai 2013
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    Real Madrid
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    So when it doesn't come to fruition, you can pat yourself on the back and flex your ego.

    Useless post. Get over yourself.
     
  25. MiamiNative0722

    MiamiNative0722 Member+

    25 Mai 2013
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    Because once again you prove that you only read headlines and not articles. Le Parisien said we are preparing 300-400. They didn't even say if thats just the transfer fee or wage bill also included.

    The same was said on the espnfc video you commented on but didn't actually watch.
     

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