Liverpool FC vs Man City - EPL - Nov 10 [R]

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  1. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
    San Francisco, CA
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    Liverpool FC
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    United States
    I like Sterling as a player... but surely he's more a diver than Mane?

    Just another example of "manager talking to press about direct rivals is full of shit".
     
  2. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
    I've never done that. :)
     
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  3. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Toronto
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    Liverpool FC
    3 points in this game puts us at +6 compared to exact-same-game last season -- wins vs Chelsea, LCFC and MC this year vs draws last year.

    :D
     
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  4. Wingtips1

    Wingtips1 Member+

    May 3, 2004
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    That scotch smirk as walker ran away...
     
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  5. Wingtips1

    Wingtips1 Member+

    May 3, 2004
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    https://www.planetfootball.com/quic...difficulty-of-their-opponents-so-far/#new_tab
    We've had the 9th most difficult schedule thus far, have the second easiest over the next 5 matches, and have the third easiest over the remaining 26 matches.
     
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  6. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
    San Francisco, CA
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    Liverpool FC
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    United States
    Well... that's encouraging.

    Unfortunately it's really going to come down to how healthy players like Salah, Bobby, Mane, VVD, and the fullbacks can stay throughout the rest of the campaign. I think that will matter more than the opponents.
     
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  7. zaqualung

    zaqualung Member+

    Jun 17, 2015
    San Francisco
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    Liverpool FC
    #207 zaqualung, Nov 13, 2019
    Last edited: Nov 13, 2019
    No circumstances - if the ref saw all that actually happened. Given VAR's shyness at over-ruling refs in 50-50s, it's hard to see them going back to overturn a 50-50 on a rule that very few could explain off the top of their heads ... maybe ... I wouldn't bet on it though.

    That was, btw, worth the time taken to peruse.

    but there are still some iffy things at work if you think this could have been argued as the aftermath -
    I don't think this could be argued because its quite likely that the ref may not have seen the Bernardo incident. None of us (or hardly anyone) saw it at the time, nor did any of the commentators until the replay. That's a crucial point interms of how this could have gone.
    Because it would leave us (in real time) with the game playing on, as ref did not call an intentional effective handball from TAA. VAR looking but unlikely to overrule what is
    a) a 50-50 call by the ref (not a clear error)
    and then
    b) a further back clear error becoming a free out to Liverpool (which they feel the on-field ref would have been unaware of) where by gaining the advantage of play we would lose a goal. So, I doubt they'd have taken the play back to that point.

    The soundtrack to the entire sequence should be this:
     
  8. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
    San Francisco, CA
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You are ignoring the fact that VAR has treated things like offside calls and handball calls as much differently than fouls in the box.
    VAR has consistently overruled refs on the attacking handball call, which directly applies to this incident.
     
  9. delaynomo

    delaynomo Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
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    Liverpool FC
    The thing is the "50:50"'ness of TAA's handball is irrelevant to awarding or not awarding a penalty. The rules say so!

    The ONLY way ManC get a penalty is if you say the Silva handball didn't happen (which clearly it did and VAR should point that out as a matter of non-subjective fact).
     
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  10. EruditeHobo

    EruditeHobo Member+

    Mar 29, 2007
    San Francisco, CA
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    United States
    Exactly.

    How often do clubs submit complaints about referees? Is this a normal thing? If so there are a handful of matches, one of which very well could have cost LFC the title last season (in the end), that they should have been complaining about...
     
  11. CB-West

    CB-West Member+

    Sep 20, 2013
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    3-1 Winners!
     
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  12. zaqualung

    zaqualung Member+

    Jun 17, 2015
    San Francisco
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    We're both ignoring that we don't really know how much of a radius to the incident they would apply. It's likely, I suppose that they would take their viewing back to any last touch of ball incident, but it's also worth keeping in mind that their mindset probably wouldn't be "obviously something relevant must have happened just previous to this thing that we are checking!"
    Or maybe that is their mindset? (Fascinating - in a semi-fascinating kind of way ....)
     
  13. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
    Time to close this second var thread.
     
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  14. zaqualung

    zaqualung Member+

    Jun 17, 2015
    San Francisco
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    btw / Has Oliver said anything on whether he saw the Bernardo handball or not?

    (Or, as somebody said, why do we care anymore? We won.)
     
  15. StiltonFC

    StiltonFC He said to only look up -- Guster

    Mar 18, 2007
    SoCal
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm going to refer this post to the committee in charge of reviewing thread-closing decisions...

     
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  16. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
    I didn't care after the ref and var said no PK.
    Get the F...k ov
    er it.
    What the hell is the matter with you people. Three days of verbal diharea and you're still going on. STFU.
     
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  17. burning247

    burning247 Member+

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    Sep 16, 2000
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  18. delaynomo

    delaynomo Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
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  19. Samarkand

    Samarkand Member+

    May 28, 2001
    #220 Samarkand, Nov 14, 2019
    Last edited: Nov 14, 2019
    Dear Pep,

    Yes, you are 100% right. Michael Oliver fu cked up very badly. Beyond belief actually, and we suspect he’s secretly a Liverpool fan.

    An injustice, a huge one, was done to your team Manchester City, and it should not be allowed to stand. Actually we’re outraged on your behalf. Michael Oliver is a disgrace, up with which we shall not put. The nerve of him.

    The score stands.
    Yours, etc.
    POMOGOL
    (or whatever we’re calling ourselves these days).
     
  20. SamScouse

    SamScouse Member+

    Jun 1, 2015
    Toronto
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    generally interesting and somewhat useful but a big flaw ... it cannot accommodate the fact that teams playing against us will all raise their game. classic example of course is Everton. no data analysis can take into account the fact that their crowd and players will go all-out for 90 mins against us - always have, always will - and that makes their form vs other teams less of a meaningful predictor.

    so, good data but lacking vital information.
     
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  21. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
    Got yours yet? Only $35. Get double travel points at any ATM.
    Comes with a free decoder ring.

    image.jpg
     
  22. zaqualung

    zaqualung Member+

    Jun 17, 2015
    San Francisco
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    Liverpool FC
    #223 zaqualung, Nov 15, 2019
    Last edited: Nov 15, 2019
    Let's bring back something more pertinent then.
    To wit: LFC's first two goals. In what key respect do they both differ from the third goal?

    While you can't expect it to be likely to often occur that there will be only a few seconds timing between a contentious "maybe penalty" review and a goal scored up the other end of the pitch (so you could sort of be willing to put up with the intrusion of having to wait with held breath and worry whilst video assisted wanking gets itself off up in the panopticon), what will happen over and over again to spoil your enjoyment of the game and the pure moment, is the need to measure the toenails of everyone involved in anything like Salah's goal, where he may well be adjudged offside if the guy deciding when the ball left the boot is off by a tad (all so the likes of Hobo can sleep soundly at night without the pain of a a badly called offside prodding their Id like a flea in a camel's arse....)

    This is what VAR's introduction has done, as we are all too well aware only 2.5 months in......Anytime something is close, part of the enjoyment of the momet will be killed stone cold dead.... and a lot of the time, the offside part, that even the VAR lovers are on record stating that's obviously not what they want to see being called will be called.

    So, but for the opposing of farce with the luck of measurement, we would have had to chalk off that beautiful Mo Salah/ Robertson/ Trent goal last Sunday... but, on the other hand, if he had been 1/10th of a second earlier in his run , at least we can rest assured that VAR would have gotten the truth and not let him escape with another grave error that the human eye can't spot in real time, and that is therefore disadvantageous to the spirit of the rules of the game.
    God Save VAR
    (or maybe us from VAR)....
     
  23. usscouse

    usscouse BigSoccer Supporter

    May 3, 2002
    Orygun coast
    If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs and blaming it on you ......

    Or

    If your aunt had balls she'd be your uncle.

    Yawn.....zzzzzzxx
     
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  24. zaqualung

    zaqualung Member+

    Jun 17, 2015
    San Francisco
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Raheem must have been one of these yungsters.....
    at 1.19
    "Now - what is the object in a game of football?"



    :D:laugh:
     

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