Ok so you cherry picking from my brief list of insult examples and claiming my logic is flawed was dishonest making your point invalid. They are all designed with one cause.
Not the pooint. Of course you will always find awful human beings, but you need to create an example. Bun 10 or 100 for ALL LIFE. You will see how others will never ever will say racist things in stadiums because they love football too much and they dont want to be banned. But if you say well 'maybe we will see, need talks, some action' but in reality you will do nothing- nothin will change.
If you don't understand how monkey chants are inciting hate or are considered hate speech, you are part of the problem. You're insinuating that anything goes in a football stadium, as long as it doesn't carry over to the outside world. You are definitely a part of the problem. I'll come to your job and shout racists things at you all day, then we can grab a beer after and pretend everything is fine.
Just because there is no easy quick solution, doesn't mean there isn't one. Hooligans were eradicated from stadiums in England.
It isn't sensible nor is it "adult". It is allowing kids to be bullies by saying "kids will be kids" or "boys will be boys". It's laziness and ignorance in one.
There is actually a pretty easy solution. All the stadiums have cameras everywhere. Identify the culprits, release their names, and ban them from the stadium. If the club cannot control their fans and the fans of the club are repeated offenders, then the club starts receiving stadium bans. Don't change the victims, change the criminals.
Stadium ban. Once nobody can go the game, the fans will be weeding out the bad seeds themselves. But until then, it's tolerated.
There is enough technology, social media, etc ... to easily expose and punish these people to make an example out of them and make people think twice next time.
Serie A eradicated good football out of the League, but apparently that doesn't keep people away from the games either.
Most of these people don't think. That's the problem. Their lives is based on vomiting their shit on stands, it's their "culture". You ban one, 2 others will do that one's job and so on. Compared to 20 years ago, I'd say things are improving so maybe one day, there's a chance these people won't see a stadium as a place to express their "culture" anymore but until then, it's something we will have to live with. And hopefully real actions are taken instead of "no racism" armbands and similar crap.
And you keep banning them and hitting them where it hurts. Put them in jail if you have to. The consequence has to be a deterrent of the behavior. Maybe they find their way inside the stadium again. They can always buy tickets from someone and I doubt there are systems in place to check IDs in most places. Not to mention logistically it slows the process of entering a stadium by quite a bit. In the WC they don't check the name on your ID against the one on the ticket. But you can certainly keep making their lives harder. Those campaigns are not crap IMO. But they certainly can't be the only solution.
so the sensible and adult approach is to police the victims reaction to racism? What the hell? All La Magica has said is Balotelli needs to ignore it as opposed to reacting the way he did and that racist chants don’t come from a place of hate. Absurdity
Sorry, but they aren't going away if you ignore them or just laugh at them. Many have ignored them over the years and the problem persists. You only hear about them when some player reacts.
Italy has a major problem with racism. It doesn’t stop or start with football sadly. Obviously not saying there’s nothing that can be done, because there is.
That is an idiotic statement whether there is any truth to the premise of that particular insult. There lies the problem, fans hurling insults to throw off a player. I could just imagine what Ronaldo got this past weekend in the derby against Torino at their grounds. I am certain some on this forum have heard bad things about him when he played for Real Madrid. Eddie Salcedo scored the first goal for Verona. He is black. He was cheered. If the Verona fans were truly racist, then he would have received the same treatment. That has been the case in all of these racist abuse stories. It is not racism, it is terrible behavior. Behavior that should be stopped whether an idiot makes a monkey noise or calls a player's mom a whore.
Just publicly humiliate them. Show them in action for the world to see. Show them on social media for their stupidity & ignorance. It will put a stop to that. As for Balotelli, he is not a victim. He is a drama queen. Always has been. He wants the attention and now has it.
Not even shocked. You can spout all the nonsense you want behind the safety of a keyboard and screen. That coward in you comes out when you actually have to face a person.
The best way to respond to racism is what England did to Bulgaria on their own pitch in front of their own fans who were chanting racist stuff.
There is nothing I have said on the topic that is even remotely racist if that is what you are getting at. You choosing to make vague threats shows more about you.