Sergino Dest Has Picked The USMNT

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by Sebsasour, Oct 28, 2019.

  1. TarHeels17

    TarHeels17 Member+

    Jan 10, 2017
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Time to start drinking! This work week didn't last very long.
     
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  2. Casper

    Casper Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    New York
    If we do that, Tata Martino won't know which side of the field to exploit us on until five minutes AFTER kickoff. If we keep it on the right, Tata can know ahead of time.
     
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  3. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    I thought it was more obvious but I think USMNT negativity needs it own form of Poe's Law.
     
  4. RalleeMonkey

    RalleeMonkey Member+

    Aug 30, 2004
    here
    I hope we try him in an attacking position. We don't have any/many challenging friendlies coming up prior to WCQ's, right? That sucks,

    But, imo, right now, he's a better attacker than defender.

    I'd like to see him tried as a CAM. I know that's incredibly unlikely. So, playing as a winger opposite Pulisic would work for me, too.
     
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  5. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is great news. Bright young talent starting for Ajax. CL experience.

    I favor putting your best guys in their best spots. Not religious about it, however.

    But since FJ has said he wants back in, I'd say try him left and Dest right. Plan B qouldbe to move Dest left and go with Yedlin/Cannon/Adams on the right.

    Good week with Pulisic's play in CL & PL Hat Trick.
     
  6. largegarlic

    largegarlic Member+

    Jul 2, 2007
    I basically agree. I think he's dropped the inverted RB as CM thing and instead just has the RB push higher up the field while the right winger pinches in and the LB stays at home. With Dest on the left and Yedlin/Cannon on the right, now either or both sides could push higher effectively (as Dest did in the games he played at LB in September), which *should* make us a bit less predictable.
     
  7. grandinquisitor28

    Feb 11, 2002
    Nevada
    Dest is better than all of them, so Dest should start at RB. Throw all the LB/RB detritus out into a competition with Gloster, and pick the best one as the starting LB and replace them if someone overtakes them, keep Dest at RB. Seems simple to me. If he's best at RB, and he's better than the rest, and he is, just play him at RB. Why make it complicated?
     
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  8. EXALIFTIN

    EXALIFTIN Member+

    Nov 23, 2010
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We play Canada in November, I consider that challenging, since we couldn't beat them the first time
     
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  9. yurch10

    yurch10 Member+

    Feb 13, 2004
    Generally I'd agree with this premise...but then you're benching a PL starter (Yedlin). I know he's the new USNT punching bag, but he's jumped right back into Newcastle's starting 11. Sure, Newcastle isn't great, but he's still one of our better talents playing in a top 3 league.

    Thus - would you rather have Yedlin/Dest starting, or Dest with Lovitz or Robinson or Ream?

    I'd take the former at this point.
     
  10. Maximum Optimal

    Maximum Optimal Member+

    Jul 10, 2001
    LB or RB? Tis the question.

    But maybe not the only question. It seems to me Dest has the skillset to play a more advanced positon. Like Fabian Johnson. For now I'm ok with him being used exclusively as a fullback, but he could end up as an attacking player.

    One more thought. Ajax alum JOB mostly played left back for them. For us he was a central mid. This is more speculative but could Dest also be that kind of player.
     
  11. ttrevett

    ttrevett Member+

    Apr 2, 2002
    Atlanta, GA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't know by what metrics the kid made his decision as it would seem to fly in the face of logic, but you really can't feel anything but excited about this decision if you are a US fan. If I'm a Dutch fan I'm definitely not too worried as they don't need to put all their eggs in one basket given the proclivity of their youth development system. For us, the loss of even one prospect is a massive setback, so a good day for the USMNT.

    If he can stay healthy I don't see how he is anything but a lock starter on either side of the back four over the next 10 years.
     
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  12. juvechelsea

    juvechelsea Member+

    Feb 15, 2006
    players who can create offense but struggle on defense i am always interested in how they might play further upfield.

    cannon should start and then between him and the rest for RB backup, maybe play him some minutes there against cuba if we're set for group finish good or bad

    LB he got two chances this year and struggled. leave that for another time.

    he would be a good Olympic choice but may not be available for qualifying
     
  13. RalleeMonkey

    RalleeMonkey Member+

    Aug 30, 2004
    here
    uh, yah. And, I think Jay's Brother will consider it challenging too. He may (although I doubt it, he's Jay's Brother) feel like his job depends on it. So, I really really doubt that he's going to be in a mood to experiment - particularly with playing SD in an attacking role. What do you think?

    That is why I said it's too bad we don't have challenging friendlies before WCQ's start.
     
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  14. glennaldo_sf

    glennaldo_sf Member+

    Houston Dynamo, Penang FC, Al Duhail
    United States
    Nov 25, 2004
    Doha, Qatar
    Club:
    FL Fart Vang Hedmark
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    awesome - maybe he felt like playing for the USMNT was his.... dest-iny....
     
  15. RalleeMonkey

    RalleeMonkey Member+

    Aug 30, 2004
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    I would pencil him in at attacking winger, opposite Pulisic. And, try him as a central mid.
     
  16. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Well if we tank against Canada we'll get two friendlies we wouldn't otherwise have next year.... just sayin'.
     
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  17. nobody

    nobody Member+

    Jun 20, 2000
    Last time we had a guy who was a starting outside back for Ajax he was a center mid for us. Dest is more skilled and plays better in traffic than most of our midfielders so I wouldn't fight giving him a shot there. But realistically, he'll be used to plug the gaping hole at left back and perhaps will be tasked with the same sort of tucked in outside back thing originally planned for Adams just shifted to the left now that Berhalter has said he sees Adams as a central player. Kind of a shame a player as good as Dest with multiple options is most likely to be slotted in just wherever we have a hole, but at least he will get plenty of minutes and as the team evolves, we'll see where he finally settles in a few years. And let's face it, any player good enough to get even a hint of recruitment for a chance on the Dutch team is the level of player the US has rarely had available. An excellent pickup wherever he ends up on the field.
     
  18. Eleven Bravo

    Eleven Bravo Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    Jul 3, 2004
    SC
    Club:
    Atlanta Silverbacks
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    because Daniel Lovitz is starting otherwise.
     
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  19. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
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    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    March 2020 is free - and Euro qualifying will be done by then (outside of the playoffs), so we should be able to score a good friendly or two, esp. with South America busy with WCQ that month.
     
  20. coachchris

    coachchris Member

    Feb 19, 2007
    Galloway, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He's not just married to it, he's actually handcuffed. XD
     
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  21. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

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    May 12, 2019
    I mean, you literally made a good case for him choosing the USMNT.

    Add in that he's friends with Pulisic and Mendez and Llanez and Ledezma and so on...
     
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  22. RalleeMonkey

    RalleeMonkey Member+

    Aug 30, 2004
    here
    We'll have to find someone to play. Other Nations League washouts?
     
  23. floydgator

    floydgator Member

    Chelsea
    United States
    Oct 15, 2019
    Dear god this. Put your best players in their best positions, then adapt. If we are still having a LB issue in 18 months, consider flipping him then. For now, just put him in his best spot. He's one of the very few no brainer starters we have.
     
  24. floydgator

    floydgator Member

    Chelsea
    United States
    Oct 15, 2019
    Dest's decision is huge and I'm fired up about it. First CP22's hat trick and now this. Great news for once!
     
  25. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How does Dest's skills more suit that of a right back than a left back? I may be able to make the opposite argument because he's not a long crosser but he does have a strong long shot which is easier to release if he's cutting in from his left. He began this season as a left back but then Tagliafico returned. Then their alternative left back was better than their alternative right back.

    And why aren't we worthy to make the same considerations as Ajax when it comes to getting our best players on the field while giving the unit optimum chance to succeed? If the gap between Dest and the alternative right back isn't as wide as the gap between him and the alternative left back, logically he should be played at left back.

    Also could play him at wing-back, attacking wing, etc.; based on need, which we have one often times at wing. He has that versatility and the consideration applies to just about everyone else on the field.
     
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