Trump Presidency Tweets Too

The arms sales 4 years hence fit the mold. The naval blockade that led to the starving of a specific ethnic group, not so much.

What national interest was served by starving Zaidi Shia?

 

#DronesAndYemen

 

That's not an answer and you aren't Jitty.

 

Many, many people owe me many, many thousands of dollars for correctly predicting that the G7 would never be held at the Trump Fleabag Motel. They're saying to me, "Sir, how did you know that? How did you know that? You were right. You are amazing, sir. Amazing."

— Bill Harnsberger (@BillinPortland) October 20, 2019

 

I bothsided your ass. I can match you bothsides for bothsides on nearly any topic you claim Trump is no worse at.

 

No, you didn't answer the question.

Wut.

 

If you don't regularly check Trump's twitter feed...he's like a malevolent Stuart Smalley now.

 

I posted this a few days back when another IC questioned our position on Syria and the change of heart that the Dems apparently experienced once Trump got hold of the WH:

1. Some of us in the left assume that the status quo is the US being an interventionist and severely involved all over the world, and that this fact is very difficult to modify, maybe not even possible to change. We don't pretend that there will be a perfect non-interventionist world once we elect a Democrat to the WH, that's another party's fantasy.

2. We don't like the Republican-style full-fledged "nation-building" invasions, and we prefer that if we deploy our military, we do it as part of a multilateral force, like the NATO or the UN, or at least we do it in a planned way, putting experienced people in charge of the decisions, and using our resources cautiously. We certainly distrust "coalitions of the willing" and we prefer that if we have to be in a place, we do it with the support of our allies.

3. We understand the complexities of withdrawal and we have learned what happens when there are power vacuums. We understand that, in regions like MENA, you have to play the long game, and that while we can reduce our footprint, it is very likely that we will be stuck in the area for a generation or two.
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IOW, we know that there have been and there will be many many mistakes and shifting alliances and we are not fully supportive of the US foreign policy. But at least we know that with a Dem in charge the clusterfvck would be reduced and the goals would be more geared toward less involvement and sustainability.

With the GOP you got Nation building gone awry in Iraq and Afghanistan, and now we have Russian and Turkish interested in front of ours. I really consider that trying to pin Obama or Clinton for relatively minor failures is just an effort to justify helping the GOP get elected (aka voting third party or "lesser of two evils").

 

What's more, perhaps we should not change it. In yesterday's NYT, the columnist Nicholas Kristof, a self-described 'progressive," bemoaned Obama's Syria policy. Not for his 2014 intervention, which Kristof said "along with a heroic intervention by Kurdish fighters, saved tens of thousands of Yazidi lives." But rather because Obama backed off that involvement, did not follow through.

True? I don't know. But I do know that many people across the political spectrum hold a similar belief, and that we never hear from those people on this board, which to my knowledge has been essentially unanimous in condemning every U.S. military involvement since 2003. On such topics, we are an echo chamber.

 

Yup, Trump was there rounding them up.

“I’m the one who did the capturing. I’m the one who knows more about it than you people or the fake pundits," Trump says of ISIS to the media assembled in the Cabinet Room.

— Josh Dawsey (@jdawsey1) October 21, 2019


“We never gave a commitment to the Kurds,” Trump said just now in Cabinet meeting, per pool

— Josh Lederman (@JoshNBCNews) October 21, 2019

 

He stormed Omaha Beach too, after withstanding the Pearl Harbor bombing.

 

This is perhaps the most dishonestly rosy gloss one can possibly put on Obama's tenure. The most risible perhaps being "we know with a Dem in office the cluster******** will be reduced", which is demonstrably false.

3.5 nations were effectively ruined by both multilateral (Libya), unilateral-ish (Yemen), unilateral in the service of 3 or 4 simultaneously conflicting sides (Syria), and covert-ish coup d'etat funding (Ukraine).

That Trump has mostly made things worse in some areas is both obvious and beside the point. That Dems joined Reps in completely losing their minds twice at the hinted and then actual partial withdrawal is definitely worth noting and ripping apart.

 

Trump "we never said we'd defend the Kurds forever or be in the M.E. forever"

He's gone Full Rand Paul

 

Don't be silly - even Trump knows* there is no ocean, and therefore no beaches, in Nebraska


*Or at least he's been told by many people.

 

1186310688823742471 is not a valid tweet id

 

Wait what?

Nation building tends to be a Democrat thing, Repugs seem to be happy with blowing up their shit and then leaving.

 

You lost me at Ukraine.

 

"Phony emoluments clause"

 

I'm confused as to what America's pre-eminent Protestant theologian of the 20th century is doing in this tweet. And twitter doesn't work on my iPad so I can't check the thread.

 

IIRC, that was James Comey's fake twitter name.

 

Do I have this sequence of events right?

-Trump goes to Saudi Arabia and doodies on their orb.
-Saudi Arabia blocakes Qatar
-Qatar gives Jared 600 million dollars
-SA lifts blockade.

Is this correct?

 

Sure, why not. Grifters gonna grift regardless of the circumstances

 

Pretty much!
Someone had to bail out 666

Here's an interesting take on it.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/02/qatar-666-5th-ave-jared-kushner

 

Things we all accept as normal now.

"So how, exactly, did the president know at what cost Doral was going to be charging for services at the G-7? And why did he say “I would be willing” if he has no operational authority within the Trump Organization?" https://t.co/y4YJgMiIli via @BulwarkOnline

— Charlie Sykes (@SykesCharlie) October 21, 2019

"People have been trying to make this deal for years," Trump says nonsensically (fact check: https://t.co/CfP3nTnL91). After claiming the Kurds and Turkey have been fighting for "200 years," he promotes it this time to "300 years."

— Daniel Dale (@ddale8) October 21, 2019

 

Sun Tzu said, "When you are strong, appear weak."

This is how Trump uses the appearance of "chaos" in his Admin. He appears to the Democrats and Media as if he is flailing and has no plan.

He has a very good plan. He is merely luring them onto his minefield.

— Bill Mitchell (@mitchellvii) October 21, 2019