2020 Roster Thread

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  1. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Maybe he has the same knit hat size as Frankie Hejduk. Maybe he'll just gonna run around the Nordecke spilling beer or skateboard around campus throwing out discount tickets. If we are keeping him for on field soccer reasons, it's inexcusable.
     
  2. Crew96Fan

    Crew96Fan Member+

    Jul 27, 2013
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
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  3. the_rickler

    the_rickler Member+

    Feb 9, 2013
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Letting Guzman go gives me hope in Porter. Certainly not the roster turnover I expected (or hoped) to see but there isn’t really much of a surprise in a lot of these decisions. Letting Higuain go was the right call. Santos will get an opportunity to show 2019 wasn’t a fluke. I can see us adding one big signing in the offseason then possibly one more in the summer. We’ll end up a mid tier team this season. Hopefully we won’t see a whole lot of injuries next year.
     
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  4. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew


    Our long sleepy slow play induced nightmare is over. #blessed
     
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  5. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Allright. Big day!

    Options exercised = 6. Santos, Mensah, Trapp, Jimenez, Francis, Argudo.

    New Contracts = 2. Josh Williams, Kempin.

    Options declined = 5. Guzman, Crognale, Sosa, Opoku, Lundgaard.

    Negoiating with: Afful (Out of contract)

    Undecided on: R. Williams (out of contract), Maloney & Hamilton (options).

    Out of contract: Higuain & Clark.


    https://www.massivereport.com/2019/...il-trapp-pedro-santos-hector-jimenez-mls-2020

    Hard to do a roster breakdown because we do not know the amounts on some of the new deals (Kempin, Argudo).

    And a word that players who are out of contract (or even had their options declined) are not necessarily gone, but if they were not the "negotiating" or "undecided" category, then their future here is a long shot. Looks like farewell Pipa. (And I have a sad).

    Will wait for the post-press conference to do a full update.
     
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  6. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hang with the update on Pipa. Not returning. Probably the right decision.

    Still makes me sad.
     
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  7. soccerncbus

    soccerncbus Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Mar 29, 2018
     
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  8. Jim Bach

    Jim Bach Member+

    Bradford City Association Football Club
    May 11, 1999
    Land of the Lizard People, or so I'm told
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    Palestine
    Per Patrick Murphy, sounds like they offered that job to Pipa but he turned them down.
     
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  9. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No real surprises. Sounds like the team was willing to re sign Pipa but wouldn't meet his number. He will be missed. Forever Crew.

    If Afful is willing to accept a backup role, great. Again, likely at a reduced price.

    A little surprised about Opoku.

    Not a shock with Crognale. He was given every opportunity in the world to seize a job and just couldnt seem to find his feet. It was clear Porter finally just gave up on him.

    A bit surprised on Argudo though. Like with Crognale it seemed like CB9K got tired of watching him not produce and nailed.him to the bench, but apparently he showed enough promise to rate another shot.

    Not a problem with Josh William's. O obviously would want better for a starter but hes clearly a backup and at the going rate hes about average
     
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  10. 96er

    96er Member

    Aug 22, 2006
    Columbus
    This is legitimately exciting news. He's been bad for 2 (plus?) years now, and we've been trying to build an offense around a busted old slow playmaker with a bad first touch. And all the people on twitter gnashing their teeth over this-what on earth have you been watching? He had some good years here. He seems like a good guy. Wish him all the best in the future. But this is long overdue, and I can't wait to see whats next.
     
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  11. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sad, indeed. Makes sense, but I hate the way he went out.
     
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  12. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I do not think anyone wanted us to build the offense around him (I certainly didn't). But was hoping he would accept a sub/spot starter role for a reduced price. Like Afful may be considering.

    Think the Maestro v2.0.
     
  13. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You don't always get to choose. I didn't, really, with my Open level rec team--and I started it. But I probably played a year too long at that level.
     
  14. BigStern

    BigStern Member

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Oct 2, 2018
    Columbus by way of Lima
    Conjecture on the TBD deals: Sounds like Bez wants Afful to stick around for the transition towards Cadden and is waiting to figure that out situation before making the call on Maloney's option. Tricky situation for Harrison as I'm sure he wants both minutes (as a competitor) and money (Contract years are dwindling) as his playing career enters the twilight. I wouldn't blame him for walking and I don't think it's that bad for the Crew (as long as Cadden is coming over in the Winter window, has anyone confirmed that?)

    I think the same situation is happening for the backup striker role with Bez preferring to get Romario on a new Contract. If that falls through, then Hamilton's option will be exercised.
     
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  15. cleazer

    cleazer Member+

    May 6, 2003
    Toledo, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Surprised to see we haven't picked up Maloney yet. He was super useful down the stretch.
     
  16. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    OK, assuming everyone who was declined/out of contract is gone save for Afful, Maloney, R. Williams, and Hamilton.

    And plugging them in at last year's salary/roster placement. Though thos could be off for non-senior roster guys with new deals/options picked up (Argudo, Kempin). And I seriously doubt Cadden is a reserve player next year, that had to be loan related.


    A. Rules & Regs (2019)
    Link:
    https://www.mlssoccer.com/league/official-rules/mls-roster-rules-and-regulations



    B. General Stuff:

    1. Salary Cap = $4,240,000 (2019)

    A) On Budget: Only Senior Roster Spots count against the Cap
    B) Players on Season Ending Injury list also count vs. the Cap, though one replacement player may be off cap under certain circumstances.
    C) Up to 20 Senior Roster spots. 18 must be filled. Min budget charge is made if spots 19 & 20 are not filled.
    D) Max budget charge is $530,000. Allocation $$ and DP rules can reduce a player's budget charge below their listed salary number.
    E) Off-Budget: Supplemental (21-24) and Reserve (25-30) Rosters do not count towards the salary cap.

    II. Estimated Roster Compositions
    1. Senior Roster: 21/18-20 Players:

    A) 20 Player max on Senior Roster, subject to Season Ending Injury List, Disabled List, and Loan exceptions.
    B) Generally, this is the highest 20 paid players, though HG players and GA players can be on other rosters.

    Rank, Player, Pos, Age,DOB, HT, WT, Nat, Desig(s), Base $$/Guar $$
    1, Zardes, F, 28, 9/2/91, 6'1", 187, USA, DP, $1,421,667/$1,471,667
    2. Mensah, D, 29, 7/13/90, 6'2", 183, Ghana, GC: $800,004/$894,004
    3. Santos, M, 31, 4/22/88, 5'6", 139, Portugal, DP, Int#1: $817,560/$864,560
    4. Trapp, M, 26, 1/15/93, 5'8", 150, USA, $549,996/$593,746
    5. Mokhtar, M, 28, 8/29/91, 5'9", 159, Morocco, Int#2, $459,996/$533,845.
    6. de Lima (Artur), M, 23, 3/11/96, 5'11", 154, Brazil, GC: $360,000/$411,633
    7. Room, GK, 30, 2/6/89, 6'3", 179, Curacao & Netherlands, Int#3, $300k/$354,694.
    8. Diaz, M, 20, 12/6/98, 5'11", 159, Costa Rica, Int#4, YDP, $300k/$333,900.
    9. Valenzuela, D, 21, 8/13/98, 5'6", 145, Argentina, GC, Int#5: $290,000/$321,300
    10. J. Williams, D, 31, 4/18/88, 6'2", 185, USA: $215,000/$215,000
    11. Jimenez, D/M, 30, 11/3/88, 5'9", 145, USA: $200,000/$200,000
    12. W. Francis, D, 29, 9/20/90, 5'9", 160, Costa Rica, GC, $160,000/$199,167
    13. Abubakar, D, 24, 12/25/94, 6'0", 180, Ghana, GC, $135,000/$144,398
    14. Open (Cadden?)
    15. Open (Afful?).
    16. Open (Kempin?)
    17. Open
    18. Open
    19. Open
    20. Open
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    2. Supplemental Roster: 5 of 4 Players (21-24)

    A) Up to 4 players. Do not count vs. salary cap. Subject to SE Injury Replacement, Disabled List, and Loan exceptions.
    B) May include Senior Minimum Budget Players ($70,250), Generation Adidas players (who may earn more), and Homegrown Players (who may earn more).

    Rank, Player, Pos, Age,DOB, HT, WT, Nat, Desig(s), Base $$/Guar $$

    21. JJ Williams, F, 21, 1/4/98, 6'3", 200, USA, GA, $95,000/$149,750
    22. Kempin, GK, 26, 4/8/93, 6'1", 175, USA: $71,664/$71,664.
    23. Open (Argudo?)
    24. Open
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    3. Reserve Roster (25-28)

    A) Players must be either earning the Reserve Minimum Salary ($56,250) or be Homegrown Players earning more via the HG Subsidy.
    B) Players must be 24 or younger during the League YEAR. As determined by Year of birth, not date (I am not sure what this means exactly, is someone who turns 25 during the season eligible or not?).
    C) Senior Min Players & GA Players cannot occupy these spots.

    Rank, Player, Pos, Age,DOB, HT, WT, Nat, Desig(s), Base $$/Guar $$
    25. Argudo, M, 23, 12/13/95, 5'9", 150, USA: $57,225/$57,225
    26. Cadden, D/M, 23, 9/19/96, 6'0", 168, Scotland, Int#7, $56,250/$56,250
    27. Open
    28. Open

    Cadden likely on Senior roster. Argudo had his option picked up, could be Supp or Senior.
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    4. HomeGrown Reserve Roster (29-30)
    A) Must be Homegrown Players.
    B) Same Budget & Age rules as Reserve Roster 25-28 players.

    Rank, Player, Pos, Age,DOB, HT, WT, Nat, Desig(s), Base $$/Guar $$
    29. Keita, D, 19, 4/6/00, 6'2, 180, USA, HG, $90,000/$110,000
    30. Open
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    7. Designated Players: 2/3 of 3

    Zardes, Santos, Diaz (Young DP, may not count next year).
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    8. International Roster Spots: 6 of 8.

    Santos, Valenzuela, Diaz, Room, Mokhtar, Cadden.
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    9. Green Card Holders = 4
    Mensah, Abubakar, W. Francis, de Lima (Artur).
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    10. Negotions/ Decisions pending = 4.

    1. Afful, D, 33, 7/24/86, 5'6", 135, Ghana, GC, $288,100/$363,800
    2. Hamilton, F, 23, 3/17/96, 6'0", 185, Canada, HGI, $124,992/$137,659
    3. R. Williams, F, 25, 8/15/94, 5'11", 170, Jamaica, GC, $78,650/$78,650
    4. Maloney, D, 24, 5/18/95, 5'6", 145, USA: $70,250/$70,250


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    Any corrections, comments, etc are always welcome.
     
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  17. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    May be waiting to see how Afful's situation shakes out first.

    Also, if his option number makes him a senior roster player, we may want to keep that spot open for someone higher up the depth chart than the #5/6 FB.

    The crowding on the Supp/Senior Roster probably meant the end for Opoku & Crognale.
     
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  18. 110toyourleft

    110toyourleft Member+

    Jan 27, 2007
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  19. soccerncbus

    soccerncbus Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Mar 29, 2018
    I don't think Afful's situation has anything to do with Maloney's situation. Afful is a probable starter (don't know how Cadden will factor in) while Maloney is a last option defender who only got decent playing time down the stretch when our entire back line was hurt.
     
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  20. TRUJDUB

    TRUJDUB Member+

    Nov 22, 2015
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Those both sound like realistic possibilities but they could have other factors at play . I really want Afful . I also think we should keep both strikers .
     
  21. MLSinSTL

    MLSinSTL Member+

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Mar 20, 2009
    Ohio - near a city
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  22. TRUJDUB

    TRUJDUB Member+

    Nov 22, 2015
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    I was totally wrong on the contracts way too much inaccurate info. A lot of team options are confusing but clear the source I used did some guessing . I really wish we could find a source that accurately tracks this type of info.

    next years players expiring contracts and team options would help us fans better speculate roster moves


    Anyways here is the horrible list I had:
    Columbus Crew Players under contract

    GK
    Room (2021)
    Lundgaard EC-wrong had option declined
    Kempin EC - new deal

    RB
    Afful (2021) was way wrong EC
    Maloney EC team has option to keep actually
    Cadden ?2020

    CB
    Abubakar EC - apparently he is under contract
    Crognale EC - wrong option declined
    Keita (2021)
    Josh Williams EC - correct
    Mensah (2022)

    LB
    Francis EC - wrong had option picked up
    Jimenez (2022) had option picked up
    Valenzuela (2021)

    CDM
    Guzman EC- correct
    Trapp (2020) - wrong had option picked up
    Artur (2021)
    Clark (2021) - wrong was on EC

    Outside/Attacking Mid/ Winger

    Diaz (2021)
    Santos EC wrong option picked up
    Opoku (2020) option declined
    Argudo EC
    Mokhtar (2021)

    CAM
    Higuaín EC - correct
    Sosa (2021) - contract declined

    ST

    Zardes (2021 )
    Hamilton (2023)
    R Williams (2020) Wrong EC
    JJ Williams (2021)
     
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  23. coachchris

    coachchris Member

    Feb 19, 2007
    Galloway, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think Maloney gets his look for not crashing in late season games. He pretty much held his own, and has a great price/performance balance. If coach likes Williams, okay, but I think there's a reason we never saw much of Hamilton. I think Harry lost a step, but he's still pretty solid, so worth negotiating. I'm a little surprised at Sosa, a young guy earning playing time, but I do think he got more with Gregg than with Caleb.

    It's funny to me, though, the team missed the playoffs, but many people want their (long time) favorites back for another go-around. When the team is losing, there have to be changes, it's as simple as that. Leadership was lacking, skills wane, Father time is undefeated, and life goes on.
     
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  24. Dr.Fever

    Dr.Fever Member

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Oct 19, 2018
    Sad to see how Pipa went out. Guy was a legit #10 and we hadn't had one since GBS. I guess the hunt is on.

    No real surprises. Will be very weird to see Pipa in another club's MLS kit, unless he wants to go back to Argentina, or overseas somewhere else. Not sure what his family situation is.
     
  25. zman31

    zman31 Member+

    May 5, 1999
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't view the playmaker spot as one that lends itself well to being a sub. He's not really a game changer guy, he doesn't have a 6th gear or a special shot. He's always been the engine, not the nitro-boost. What do you get from him if he comes off the bench when we're down 1-0 in the 65th minute? Even at $400k, does having him on the gameday 18 taking up that much cap space really do anything for us? All that taken in even before the fact that he's coming back from a serious knee injury. Adding that in it's even more of an unknown as to what he could offer.
     
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