Christian Pulisic at AC Milan

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  1. glutton4Bolts

    glutton4Bolts Member+

    United States
    Mar 18, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah... I have yet to find a soccer rating that truly holds water... It is all about the eye test... just gotta watch these guys play.
     
  2. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    I think this is too facile. United have shown they can still cost top teams points, esp at home (good for Chelski they have that one out of the way) and they still have to face Spurs x2. Not sure Spurs are as over as suggested.

    Important stretch for Chelski coming up - lots of CL action, an important Palace game in two weeks. Will be a good test for Lampard team/player management skills.
     
  3. lmorin

    lmorin Member+

    Mar 29, 2000
    New Hampshire
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #28128 lmorin, Oct 20, 2019
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    @smokarz
    re CP ratings:
    Rated a 7 by Football London. Second highest rating (multiple players)
    Rated a 7 by 90MIN. Second highest rating (multiple players)
    Rated a 7 by thehardtackle. Third highest rating (multiple players)--the site gave a 9 to Jorginho & H-O and 8 to Zouma
    Rated a 7 by WestLondonSport. Second highest rating (multiple players)
    Rated 6.4 by WhoScored. Second LOWEST (tied with Barkely; only Mount lower) FWIW, they give Yedlin a 7.

    Yesterday, I saw one rating of '5' for CP, but I can't find it today.

    My rating would have been a 7.
     
  4. y-lee-coyote

    y-lee-coyote Member+

    Dec 4, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    Sigh**

    Going from everything, (yes I have read nearly every public utterance from him and his family about his life and career) and it is clear you don't get it at all.

    FFS people act like the guys at CFC who pull purse strings didn't know in Dec they were going to fire Sarri and hire Lumpy. I am not sure of the promises that were broken at BVB, but it was clear he was never going to resign after the "broken promises." Whatever they were, I believe they were a legit shot to play in the middle of the pitch. The Reus role if you will. He got them under TT but the next 2 coaches and then a third never gave him a chance. The first public thing I recall Lumpy saying about him was that he thought he should be in the middle of the pitch.

    At BVB, post Tuchel, he was viewed solely as a winger. Pulisic considers himself an AF/CAM not a winger. He came to Chelsea for chances like he got yesterday. He became a winger so he could get on the pitch with men, while he was still a boy. He is a useful winger too, but he sees himself in the role he played yesterday.

    I personally think he will develop into a world class player there simply because he puts so much pressure on a defense. His crosses are rather ordinary, but his through balls are sublime. Yesterday we/he/CFC got a little taste, stay tuned, there will be more to come.
     
  5. markandrew78

    markandrew78 Member

    Jun 10, 2007
    So no all touch video?
     
  6. mschofield

    mschofield Member+

    May 16, 2000
    Berlin
    Club:
    Union Berlin
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Seriously, they knew in January last year that they were going to dump a guy who had them in the CL places, and was widely considered to be one of the better coaches around, for Lamps, who had Derby almost in the Championship playoff places at that time? Is that why the contract was terminated only at Sarri's request, and Chelsea required compensation from Juve?
    I don't doubt that Lampard was always destined to manage Chelsea, once he figured out the managing gig, but I would guess this summer was a bit earlier than Abramovich and Co had seen as ideal.
    Did the Chelsea board consult him on the Pulisic deal ( weirdly way beyond normal tapping up)?
     
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  7. Sufjan Guzan

    Sufjan Guzan Member+

    Feb 13, 2016
    He really does need to get better at finishing. But I agree with a lot of this.

    If his finishing improves it would make his ability to draw defenders even more devastating.

    That's part of why Sancho is just so devastating. His end product whether it's a cross or a finish is so consistent.

    Pulisic can do stuff you see other players never do, but he doesn't do it with consistency and his end product is just average.
     
  8. freisland

    freisland Member+

    Jan 31, 2001
    You maverick, you!
     
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  9. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I've watched every minute of every CFC games for years now so, just a bit of info for you guys...

    Mount will see the pitch because he scores goals. Of those two Barkley is more likely to be subbed if he's not playing well.
    Not the way Willian's playing, he's not. He's been a vital part of the threat we have going forward. Pedro, maybe!

    Your lad did well for us the other day. I haven't watched him an enormous amount before he signed for us but I've seen enough to know he can be a great addition for years to come :)
     
  10. bballshawn

    bballshawn Member+

    Feb 5, 2014
    Delaware
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    I dont want to seem like im bagging on mount to prop up pulisic, but like barkley mount is not #10 material i felt like he was playing more like a striker (maybe by design) than a midfielder yesterday. Hes like a poaching center mid who works hard.
     
  11. smokarz

    smokarz Member+

    Aug 9, 2006
    Hartford, CT

    Yes, I was referring to the WhoScored rating.
     
  12. smokarz

    smokarz Member+

    Aug 9, 2006
    Hartford, CT

    This is very true.

    He won't be able to send in crosses like Odoi, but he got the vision to set up guys like he did with Tammy and Alonso yesterday.
     
  13. smokarz

    smokarz Member+

    Aug 9, 2006
    Hartford, CT

    Completely agreed. Willian has been playing very well as of recent, however I still don't think Chelsea is going to give him a new multi year contract. I think he's gone next summer, but I think Chelsea will sign a new young winger to keep competition high.

    If Mount keep scoring he will play, but I believe his scoring will slow down significantly. I just don't rate Mount.
     
  14. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Do you mean Ross Barkley or Mason Mount? Mount, (4 goals in 9 appearances), is still only 20 whereas Ross Barkley, (3 in 35), is nearly 26.

    Of the two Barkley is more likely to be dropped in the future as he's still rather erratic in a way you might forgive with a kid, not so much with a guy who's meant to be in his prime.
     
  15. Winoman

    Winoman Drinkin' Wine Spo-De-O-De!

    Jul 26, 2000
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think he missed a comma between Barkley & Mount.
     
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  16. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Mount and Puli are investments for the future and, increasingly, for the rest of this season.

    My thinking is that if we had an experienced and reliable centre forward, Mount, (who's more likely to chip in with a goal), wouldn't be getting as much time this year but the thing is, we need more goals from across the team. We can't just rely on Tammy who's only a kid himself.

    However, that doesn't mean that Puli won't play necessarily. It just means he'll be sharing playing time so we can see who's going to do the business.
     
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  17. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Ah, OK!, thanks :D
     
  18. y-lee-coyote

    y-lee-coyote Member+

    Dec 4, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    I think that is a good thing! He has time to build his game with a manager who finds him useful, while not using his body up.
     
  19. USA-Zebuel

    USA-Zebuel Member+

    Mar 26, 2013
    Club:
    Colón de Santa Fe
    Yeah. Willian is really good and is obviously the senior leader for these guys. I don’t see him going anywhere barring an injury.

    Pedro, while older and not the Pedro of a few years ago, is an extremely intelligent player. He will be depth but not direct competition for CP.
     
  20. USA-Zebuel

    USA-Zebuel Member+

    Mar 26, 2013
    Club:
    Colón de Santa Fe
    If not for a pretty epic reflex save from the keeper, Mount had a great back to goal turn shot against Newcastle. You may not rate him but that kids keeps the defense honest. For that alone he is an asset.

    CP had to start scoring goals to displace Mount.
     
  21. Lloyd Heilbrunn

    Lloyd Heilbrunn Member+

    Feb 11, 2002
    Jupiter, Fl.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What is KP90 (Minutes)?

    Is it bad, like KP is in the Army?:cool:
     
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  22. Cubanlix63

    Cubanlix63 Member+

    AFC Ajax
    Feb 19, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Key Passes per 90.
     
  23. Lloyd Heilbrunn

    Lloyd Heilbrunn Member+

    Feb 11, 2002
    Jupiter, Fl.
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Defined as....?

    Thanks.
     
  24. Cubanlix63

    Cubanlix63 Member+

    AFC Ajax
    Feb 19, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Mason Mount was looked at as the crown jewel of Chelsea's Academy for years even before Lampard and Jody Morris came back. He is going to be a key player for Chelsea.
     
  25. Cubanlix63

    Cubanlix63 Member+

    AFC Ajax
    Feb 19, 2014
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Key Passes are passes that lead to shots.
     
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