Why does MLS make Gregg call in the wrong MLS players or play them out of position? Wouldn't MLS be happy to have Joe Corona or Ike Opara or Marky Delgado or Cannon or Dax out on the field?
Which is a double whammy, because Garber and the head of LAFC academy have said they could care less about MLS as a talent developer for the NT. And, TAM is designed to allow teams to bring in more foreign players. In short, sUmlSSF is screwing the MNT in multiple orifices.
I would bet that for the past 10 years, in concacaf play, we have more offensive fouls called on us than shots on goal, on our corners. Even Tuesday, when McKennie was called for the handball, he was being dragged by a Canadian player. In general, I won't watch concacaf matches that don't have VAR. (which means, in general, I won't watch them). I watched Canada because I was so certain we were going to lose.
Sorry but Copa America as a metric is misleading. We won half our games and lost the other half. The ones we won that we already should have were Paraguay and Ecuador -- who we can get results against now in the middle of this crap. The only team we beat that we "shouldn't have," was CR, who went home and if I remember right, fired their coach, and then took 2 wins from us in WCQ. Snobs like it because the tournament looks prestigious on paper and because it flattered Euro-based players who have gone on to be liabilities like Yedlin and Brooks. Brooks' CR nightmare is the fall right after that tournament. So do I credit the oddball tournament that got held 3 years running, or hold against him the WCQ?? I also can't remember how many we played in football stadia and/or on roll out sod. To me why can't see the plain reality of 4th in GC lose playoff 4th in CA advance by 3 pts from the semis with a TnT away tie and a Guate away loss. I was nervous even before Couva went south because heading someplace needing a tie where that's all you managed last trip was not confidence inspiring. kind of like, if GB survives to WCQ and so does Canada, you are handing away so many points just to be optimistic. like definitional insanity. I mean one reason to fire him is just assuming the same results as recently, objectively we'd top out at probably 3 points from 4 games with Mexico and Canada, and at best come out tied with our northern neighbors......just playing to form. and that assumes we can get the job done canada home which i think will be interesting if he is still running the joint.
Kind of harrowing to hear Martino double down on the idea that the culture is horrific, and that the Jay/Egg thing to him isn't really about the brother angle, but more about Jay being ridiculously underqualified for the position. Add in the stories w/reference to the horror show culture there (he knows people that have joined, and left this year in months precisely for that reason). Some weird issue with Bocanegra (apparently they don't speak any more?). John Collins as an insider, "dishonest and repugnant person," basically for whatever it's worth, Martino's point seems to be that the people running the fed are well and truly vile. That it really is total excrement. https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/barstool-sports/putys-world-cup-podcast
https://amp.theguardian.com/football/2014/jun/05/costa-rica-squad-2014-world-cup Stop it. Other teams do more with less. There is nothing wrong with our pool that a better coach can't fix. I want Jorge Pinto. Costa Rica won a group of death with those guys. Look at those clubs and leagues. They beat Italy with domestics, Scandinavian league and MLS making up most of the squad. The US gets beat by USL and MLS backups and people talk about the pool. Marco Urena basically knocked is out of the world cup. Why can Canada start a squad full of MLS players and boss the midfield? The Czech republic threw out a 29 year old uncapped MLS striker against England but we can't work in Opara?
LA-Mex guys probably don't care, but Garber and other MLS honchos have consistently stated that one of MLS's duties is producing players for the NT. http://www.fourfourtwo.com/us/featu...nt-domestic-foreign-talent-global- challenge https://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/16/...-klinsmann-for-comments- about-mls.html?_r=0 http://www.espnfc.us/major-league-s...don-garber-no-influence-on- jurgen-klinsmann
let's take away the narrative bs about is system working or not. how many coaches of top 30 teams would keep their job if their last 5 games were LLDWL and the only team they beat since the GC semis was cuba. also, in terms of how our GC defeateds are doing: Guyana 2nd Group C League B TnT 3rd behind Martinique Group C League A Panama 2nd Group B League A (loss to Bermuda 0-2 away) Curacao 1st Group D League A (screwed by rankings) Jamaica 1st Group C League B (helped by rankings)** right now the 3 concacaf teams to beat us are tops of their NL League A and B groups **only team that would make the hex right now, and they beat us in the friendly but then lost the semi
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hahaha.... this is just nonsense. Just one small area he impacted the game was from his substituions. His subs changed too many games to just be luck. Compare that to the impact subs like Zardes, Roldan, and Lovitz have.
So Morris seems to be in a good run of form. Herdman used a 2 forward set yday. Should we have used Morris and Sargent in a similar fashion and maybe we could have put Puisic just behind them and told him to go find space on offense and get back to the central/forward part of our half in defense. It looked like Berhalter was back in the saddle when LIma came in and put in a couple of crosses late. Sarge took a wack at one cross but whiffed. He doesn't seem to be a real aerial threat on crosses. Morris got his head on one which went to the keeper. So, I guess Lima would be the logical pick in Egg's system and then he'd have to worry about defending Fonz. I wonder how that would work out. Otherwise Cannon could take a wack at defending Fonz but his offense sucks so the Berhalter system would be starved in the attacking end.
It is impressive because it is the most complete tournament we have ever played. We had 5 strong performances out of 6. We played well against Colombia twice, Costa Rica, Paraguay, and Ecuador. We were playing without three starters This shows a lack of depth, but that top group had a heck of tournament.
I never thought about posting here! I put this on the Canadian forum yesterday. I'd expect you folks would only be interested in the Berhalter stuff. Most of the American reporters ran off before Herdman came into the room for his turn. October 15, 2019 40+ minutes of post game and press conference and hallway interviews audio with Gregg Berhalter and John Herdman, Milan Borjan (twice!), Alphonso Davies, Kamal Miller, Jonathan David and Lucas Cavallini on my site at: http://www.rocketrobinsoccerintoronto.com/reports19/19cana06.htm
At Copa 100 we were FIFA ranked 31st in the world. We lost to the #1 team in the world and the #3 team in the world twice. Ecuador had their golden generation and was just outside the top 10 in the world. #3 Colombia L0-2 #23 CR W4-0 #44 Paraguay W1-0 #13 Ecuador W2-1 #1 Argentina L0-4 (played without Jones, Wood, Bedoya, Yedlin) #3 Colombia L0-1 https://www.fifa.com/fifa-world-ranking/ranking-table/men/rank/id11475/
Please, everyone stop engaging any klinsy discussion. It's another useless red herring to distract from how awful this team is being coached and managed. It was 4 damn years and 3 managers ago. Nobody cares. Just stop.
The opposite is true, imo. Trying to remove that era from the discussion makes us lose sight of the big picture. It's useful as an analog to display how much the fed drags their feet when it's time to make a change, and how the results of that are digging a hole in a cycle that is hard to climb out of. The outcome was cataclysmic. Do we want to learn from this mistake, or keep waiting until we're already in the hex? Also, it provides perspective of how long this rot has existed, for 4 and a half years, not just a couple, indeed over 4 managers like you pointed out. Some have short memories about how bad Gold Cup 2015, the preliminaries of qualifying, and start of the hex really were. All included historic futility for the senior team in the modern era, as we've seen under Gregg and did under Arena. So either the main problem is the players, or the fed influencing the selections/manager choices. We are in all likelihood not in a golden generation yet, but hard to envision the players are the main problem given who we're losing against or getting out-played. Therefore it's probably the fed. If all that's done is they just switch to manager #5 in this pathetic streak, will all or most of our problems be solved again? Most likely not. It would just pacify the masses again. The same execs are still there to influence the managerial choice and player selection. So that leaves options like fan boycotts, player boycotts, or even #USSeparation.
Sorry man. I actually think the Klinsmann stuff is relevant to things that are wrong now. I would happily have the discussion elsewhere, but not going to stop correcting people who make incorrect statements. I get people not liking him, but he did certain things well that I would love from a coach now. I also think we can learn from the past. Klinsmann knew the limitations of MLS players. So did Sampson in 1998 and Arena in 2006. Unfortunately Arena 2017 didnt have that opinion. The only times we had 15+ MLS players on our roster is 1998, 2017, and 2019. Those are three of the worst years USMNT modern history.
I'm with you, and agree with you about both klinsy and learning from past mistakes/successes. But it's simply not helpful or useful when people are still arguing nonstop about that time. Just watched the PBS Burns doc about Vietnam. It's great to learn about that, because everyone has now agreed that serious mistakes were made, and we can all collectively work on fixing them in the future. That's not where we're at with Klinsy. Everyone just switches to that argument, whether he was good or not. I posted how he brought in young talent and stuck with it, some worked and some didn't. People were disagreeing with that, which I thought was pretty obvious and understood. Then instead of figuring out how we can get Egg fired, we're just arguing about the merits, or lack thereof, of the Klins.
I personally miss the guy who only called in two MLS players outside of a January camp (btw, this the stupidest in sports history) after the three coaches that followed him. I agreee that if you are going to let a coach go, you dont wait until you are in the Hex. Btw, we lost the first game of the Hex vs a lesser team in 2013 but still found a way to win the game and qualify with tons of points to spare. Klinsmann said he wanted to win the 2015 GC, but also let Cameron go back to his club as he was coming off an injury and Wood join his new team. A ggod portion of the team was trying to implement new players. Some stuck, some didnt. Guys who didnt start in Brazil but started in that tournament included Guzab, Brooks, Alvarado, Chandler, Yedlin, Diskerud, Zardes, and Johannsson.
Which is what I was originally trying to get at. How much more rope do we give Gregg? We've given rope to coaches in the past. There was a LOT that went into the Canada match: Questionable player selection. Questionable tactics. Canada treating this as a cup final. Our star player not playing like a star player. No midfield bite. No visible leadership. And on and on and on and on... Now some of that is on Gregg. Some on the players. And some on the heels of our past failures. And what is most concerning to me is that it seems like Gregg has been deflecting criticism from any poor result with this idea that kind of sounds like "This is all a training exercise". Well...if this is all a training exercise then when will it stop? Are the games not important to him yet? Is Gregg's plan to throw anything that is NOT a World Cup qualifier in the garbage and say "it's a process". So anyway...I personally wouldn't can him today. However, IMO (for me personally) he needs to manage that home Canada game as if it was a World Cup Qualifier. I want to hear him say the words "We're treating this game as a World Cup Qualifier". Likelihood of that: Probably close to zero.