USMNT: The Berhalter Era pt. 1/ World Cup 2022 /Controversy

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  1. puttputtfc

    puttputtfc Member+

    Sep 7, 1999
    Perhaps you should crawl back in before next month's game.
     
  2. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
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    United States
    GB is incapable of motivating players, I’m convinced of it now. That, and as usual, no Plan B (though seriously, was there even a Plan A in this game?).
     
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  3. TKyle

    TKyle Moderator
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    Dec 28, 2014
    Nordecke’s Porch
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    S Bum—you have to remember that Timon doesn’t believe that boycotts can be effective.
    You’d be merely making a STATEMENT.
     
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  4. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
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    United States
    He’s better than Porter lol.
     
  5. Kyle Crew

    Kyle Crew Member+

    Feb 23, 2013
    Columbus, Ohio
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    United States
    I’m not sure Bayern was the best choice for Davies, but it was certainly better than Pulisic’s to go to Chelsea, for sure.
     
  6. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
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    Yeah, he is. I've said here multiple times I'd rather have had Berhalter one more year than Porter for 5, or even two.
     
  7. Indy83

    Indy83 Red Card

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    A good coach will adjust to the players he has. We did better in the 90s and early 0s on athleticism, fitness, and grit. Then we decided we were going to play like we were Barca and look where we are now.
     
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  8. Indy83

    Indy83 Red Card

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    @hangthadj is a bit of an ass about it but devil his due is looking like a prophet right now
     
  9. puttputtfc

    puttputtfc Member+

    Sep 7, 1999
    Bit of an ass? I think he's a great guy and poster.
     
  10. Indy83

    Indy83 Red Card

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    You can be a great guy and still be a bit of an ass sometimes.
     
  11. puttputtfc

    puttputtfc Member+

    Sep 7, 1999
    I would be less of an ass if soccer in the US didn't have guys named Precourt, Garber or Roldan in important places.
     
  12. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    A boycott of something you were only marginally likely to unlikely to partake in really doesn't qualify as one.
     
  13. Salacious Bum

    Salacious Bum Member

    Jun 5, 2010
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    Because you know me, my life and my personal wealth and ability to do the things I want to do?

    Or because you believe that we, as individuals, should not stick to our moral values and ethical principles, in the face of human slavery and corruption, if it does not affect immediate change in the world?

    I agree, Qatar doesn’t need my money. They really don’t need anyone’s money. But I’m really having a hard time understanding your butthurt reaction to an innocuous three line post.
     
  14. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    Many people talk much bigly about boycotts when in reality, they are simply expressing disapproval in a mostly-vacuum. If that doesn't apply to you, then consider this a retraction.
     
  15. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
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    Get off my lawn.
     
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  16. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
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  17. WhiteHartShame

    WhiteHartShame Member+

    Nov 16, 2008
    Columbus, Ohio
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    US Soccer just added this to their online store.

    [​IMG]
     
  18. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    I don't follow usmnt stuff as closely as I used to, but was there really a wave of support in here for Berhalter being a deserving choice for head coach? I could an argument for he being a candidate, but as I recall, the Fed was universally lambasted for the absolute lack of effort it showed in reviewing a competitive candidate pool. Toss in Jay B's role, and the whole thing stinks to high heaven.

    I had modest expectations for Gregg, thought he might muddle along as head coach. He's surely done worse than I expected, but I didn't expect much. Hard to imagine anyone would have.
     
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  19. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
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    I do t know about support in the hire but I was willing to give him a fair chance once he was hired.

    I wasn’t able to watch last night, should I just delete the recording?
     
  20. 110toyourleft

    110toyourleft Member+

    Jan 27, 2007
    Columbus
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    Yeah. October 2017,crash outta WC 2018. Then the Austin nonsense. Pretty low-point in soccer fandom at that time. USMNT interest hasnt really recovered.
     
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  21. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    Yes.
     
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  22. QuarkspaceDotCom

    Mar 14, 2000
    Deep in the Bluegrass Hinterlands
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    Indeed. My love for US Soccer is at a nadir. The Crew are a vast oasis in a sea of suck. I laughed this morning seeing Beckham's stadium efforts in Miamuh appear to be road-blocked. Had J Anthony Patsy won, I'd have no problem leaving this all behind. Praise be to the profit center for US Soccer, the Mexican Men's National Team.
     
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  23. Minnman

    Minnman Member+

    Feb 11, 2000
    Columbus, OH, USA
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    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    Fair enough, and I suppose I would have agreed with that opinion. Largely because, I mean, what other choice to fans have? But results have been so miserable that his "fair chance" seems to have run its course.

    It's funny that we refer to Porter as CoachBot, when Berhalter is a far more rigid, Mr. Data kind of manager. I don't think he's a bad coach, just remarkably plodding in his approach to his role. I give him credit for righting the ship when he came to Columbus, getting us back in the playoffs right away, the run to the 2015 MLS Cup.

    But I also feel he really was only in consideration for the USMNT job because of Zach Steffen's development as a keeper. The whole myth of Gregg Berhalter, highly successful MLS coach, would fallen apart without Steffen's performances in 2017 and 2018. None of those memorable playoff performances would have happened without that one player. We'd have lost of Atlanta in the first, knockout match in 2017, and we wouldn't even have made the playoffs in 2018, without Steffen.

    Take away that playoff success, and would Berhalter even been considered for the job? And now we have his bother as the only candidate seemingly in consideration for the CEO role... I mean, WTF? The men's senior program seems hellbent to destroy itself.
     
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  24. LastOfEleven

    LastOfEleven Member

    May 1, 2007
    Cincy, OH
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    United States
    I would rather watch a recording of last night's Democratic debate from a dentist's chair than watch the game again.
     
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  25. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    Watch the following instead:
     
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