U-23 camp - October 2019 - Miami

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  1. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    1183523057492811782 is not a valid tweet id
     
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  2. LouisZ

    LouisZ Member+

    Oct 14, 2010
    Southern California-USA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I recognized the front 3. Who are the back two?
     
  3. TarHeels17

    TarHeels17 Member+

    Jan 10, 2017
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    McKenzie in the Yankees hat and the other is Hassani Dotson.
     
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  4. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Hassani Dotson.................4 year NCAA player, right?
    They still exist in our pool.
    We constantly prognosticate and predict the end of the 4 year NCAA player. And yet here we are.

    Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe he's scored just about the same number of goals in his first MLS season as his four NCAA seasons combined.
     
  5. BraveUpNorth

    BraveUpNorth Member

    Jan 21, 2016
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    That’s rookie of the year finalist Hassani Dotson
     
  6. Thundering165

    Thundering165 Member+

    North Carolina FC
    United States
    May 1, 2017
    Raleigh
    I don't think there will ever be a day where we don't have 4 year college players making a name for themselves in the pros.

    Sometimes it seems like development is constant and always trending upwards, and it really appears that way on a macro level. When individual players plateau we forget about them, or in the came of some wail and gnash our teeth (Pulisic, for example).

    On an individual growth level, though, plateauing is expected and often necessary for breakthroughs to be made. Players who fell behind leaving high school have the opportunity to make it up in college, and some will.
     
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  7. Patrick167

    Patrick167 Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    May 4, 2017
    When we have guys like Roldan, Trapp, and Lovitz, starting, anyone is in the pool.

    But those are low bars to jump.

    You can become a good MLS player, after playing NCAA. Whoever doubted that? Maybe in 10 years...but maybe the NCAA gets better.

    Has anyone played 4 years of NCAA soccer and started a Champions League game? A few played three and got into the competition on Belgian and Scottish teams.

    Going to college for four years caps your ceiling. Who knows where Dotson would be if he hadn't played college.
     
  8. Patrick167

    Patrick167 Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    May 4, 2017
    Very little news or anything out of this camp.
     
  9. LouisZ

    LouisZ Member+

    Oct 14, 2010
    Southern California-USA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #109 LouisZ, Oct 15, 2019
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    I took the time to view Datson's college highlight vids and to me, he looked head and shoulders above the competition. He was playing in midfield. I'm surprised he stuck it out for 4 years.
    The kid has size, speed and good view of the field. He is definitely one to keep an eye on and see if he continues to improve.
     
  10. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    If you're not coming out of an MLS academy, your options are limited.
    If my memory serves me correctly, he came out of Crossfire in Washington.
     
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  11. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You saw the report from Brian a few days ago. There was some good tidbits in there. Lewis, Cappis, Richards, Glad, and maybe Soto were having a stock improving camp.

    Another update would be nice I suppose. The game against El Salvador is today, so that will produce more info. It's a closed door so presumably there's no way to watch. Don't even know the specific time, but it must be before the US senior match to not distract focus and be anti-climactic.
     
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  12. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I know the starting lineup vs. El Salvador

    Freese - GK
    Herrera - RB
    Glad - CB
    McKenzie - CB
    Gloster - LB
    Dotson - No. 6
    Mendez - CM
    Mihailovic - CM
    Lewis - LW
    Lennon - RW
    Soto - CF

    - Saucedo left camp early with a knock
    - Cardoso is doing well. He's young and didn't know ANYONE coming into camp. His English is also very poor. So there is a learning curve for him but he's worked really hard.
     
  13. soccersubjectively

    soccersubjectively BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 17, 2012
    Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is Freese the assumed number one or is it up in the air right now?
     
  14. butters59

    butters59 Member+

    Feb 22, 2013
    Benny Feilhaber was walk in on his college team. Luckily for him Zigy's son was on the same team.
     
  15. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanks for the update. It's a little disappointing of a lineup tbh, although injury and senior team call-ups play a role in that. I'm sure there will be a lot of subs used and they'll come in early like last time, so much of the list is ceremonial.
     
  16. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think he's #1. He started last camp too. Pitched a shutout. He's also shown the most w/ a 1st team this season.

    Do you think someone else is a better answer? I'm intrigued by Marcinkowski and Ochoa, but they've played exclusively in the USL this season, even though they've performed, and pass the eye test for me there and the youth levels. I also thought Freese impressed. This might actually be a good group, but it's a later emerging position on average.
     
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  17. Patrick167

    Patrick167 Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    May 4, 2017
    Did Ledezma even get on the plane? His name hasn't been mentioned once in connection with anything at this camp.
     
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  18. Runhard

    Runhard Member+

    Barcelona
    United States
    Jul 5, 2018
    You might want to keep that quiet or twitter is going to meltdown. I can't believe he was not starting.
     
  19. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Presumably means nothing.

    I imagine complete lineup turnover to start the second half.

    I'm not going to assume that the starting lineup is the one that Jason sees as his "best XI" from the group.
     
  20. Runhard

    Runhard Member+

    Barcelona
    United States
    Jul 5, 2018
    True but you know how people try to read tea leaves. By the way, I heard Pax was shopping for houses near Frisco so sounds like putting down roots and not looking to be sold. Speaking of reading tea leaves.
     
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  21. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    1-0 USA. Lennon from Mendez
     
  22. ckajMonet

    ckajMonet Member

    Spurs
    United States
    Jun 8, 2017
     
  23. autobus39

    autobus39 Member+

    Jun 28, 2006
    Scranton, PA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States




     
  24. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Lennon from Mendez 1-0
    Lewis from Mihailovic 2-0
    Ledezma from Mihailovic 3-0
    Soto from Lewis 4-0
     
  25. LouisZ

    LouisZ Member+

    Oct 14, 2010
    Southern California-USA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    no Cappis for this game?
     

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