Jill Ellis is out. Who's coming in? New GM, New Coach

Discussion in 'USA Women: News and Analysis' started by TimB4Last, Jul 30, 2019.

  1. MRAD12

    MRAD12 Member+

    Jun 10, 2004
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    #251 MRAD12, Oct 13, 2019
    Last edited: Oct 13, 2019
    I'm sure everyone here knew I couldn't pass this up.

    That's YOUR opinion. You don't like or feel comfortable in big cities. Chicago like all big cities has its tough neighborhoods but is also a clean city, great food, arts, many ethnic neighborhoods, great suburbs, great transportation system, two airports, a team in every sport, etc, etc. yes, it does get cold in the winter but you dress through it. In the summer one of the most beautiful cities on the planet.

    I've lived in many parts of this country in my life as I was in the military and other businesses, Florida, South Carolina, TX, Arkansas, Michigan, Ohio, and still come back home to Chicago.

    Vlatko, IMO would love Chicago as there is a huge population of people here from the former Yugoslavia, some of which he has played with and against in his indoor career. Huge Macedonian population. He has been here many times and has many friends in Chicago.

    Just because you didn't like it, doesn't mean the rest of us don't.
    I love Chicago.

    And BTW, the coach does not have to move to Chicago. I don't think Ellis ever lived here. I believe she lives in Florida.
     
  2. puttputtfc

    puttputtfc Member+

    Sep 7, 1999
    New rule from Soccer House. They want all coaches close to HQ for whatever reason. If memory serves, this rule did not affect Ellis but will be applied to the new coach.
     
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  3. FanOfFutbol

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    May 4, 2002
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    I wonder what gave you that idea? I do like "some" quite large cities like Washington DC, Kansas City, San Antonia, San Fransisco (if I could get past it being in California) and Seattle.

    I also really like a number of large cities in other countries. I even would live in Berlin, Moscow or Tokyo if I could afford the move and the health care cost increase was not so bad.
     
  4. Midwest Ref

    Midwest Ref Member

    Jul 25, 2002
    Just like US Soccer has done for people in the referee department, they want everyone living in Chicago.
     
  5. Mills

    Mills Member

    Aug 23, 2019
    I know, right.
    Don't they practice in California?
     
  6. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm going to make a guess that USSF's intent is to have the entire management team - including Markgraf and the new coach - based in Chicago. That way they, and the resource people at USSF, all will be working together on a daily basis.

    Imagine a major sports franchise not having its full management team based in the same city. It would seem nuts.

    I think this is professionalizing the management of the team. It also makes me think there is going to be a strong interconnection between Markgraf and the new coach, much like what you'd see with a general manager and coach for a professional sports franchise.
     
  7. FanOfFutbol

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    Except that Skype and other ways of having conference calls make it totally unnecessary. There is no real reason, and has not been for quite a while, that people working together ever have to be in the same country/city/building.

    It is just a very old idea that people need to be together to work together.
     
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  8. MRAD12

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    Out of curiosity what about Chicago didn't you like?
     
  9. hotjam2

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    I live pretty close to New Orleans. I'm pretty disappointed visiting any other cities, cuz if it don't have a French Quarter in it, it just don't compare!
     
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  10. blissett

    blissett Member+

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    You should have gone to France to follow the World Cup last summer: plenty of French Quarters there. :giggle:
     
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  11. lil_one

    lil_one Member+

    Nov 26, 2013
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    It's not official, but BBC Sport just leaked that its Andonovski. It is possible that USSF may have wanted to wait until after playoffs, but may have to make the official announcement now.

     
  12. MRAD12

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  13. lil_one

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  14. zdravstvuyte

    zdravstvuyte Member

    Aston Villa
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    Jul 26, 2018
    Back on tour !!!
    Yeah... he’s the guy alright.

    Totally OT.. (apologies again for this but It’s not really thread starting material)

    Judy Foudy has new episodes of her podcast out now. I just listened to the one with 5 &13 in the bathroom of the Ritz-Carlton eating bearclaws.

    Pretty funny and informative stuff.
     
  15. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

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    will this bring a different coaching style? I mean on the outside, obviously, but if you go with the 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it' mentality plus a staff of 50 used to a system in place

    if Jill Ellis was all about;

    using the same old players,
    direct attacking/fast transistion,
    quick switches from either side flanks,
    high press,
    extreme pressure on opposing CB's

    then what will Vladko bring?(as I don't follow/know his tactics)
     
  16. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
    Sigh...:rolleyes:

    OK, I'll try this one more time:
    If you have players good enough to consistently reach the WC final, a lot of them will be great enough to hold their jobs against all comers for a decade.

    Ellis was distinctly NOT "all about ...using the same old players." She called and capped players at an unprecedented rate.

    It just isn't easy to drive Carli Lloyd or Becky Sauerbrunn or Tobin Heath or Alex Morgan off a roster. They all have long standing habits of meeting and turning back challenges.

    In fact, Ellis actually dropped two players off a world championship squad with little or no chance to play for their jobs--Kling and Engen. That seems to me pretty telling...
     
  17. Lloyd Heilbrunn

    Lloyd Heilbrunn Member+

    Feb 11, 2002
    Jupiter, Fl.
    Nat'l Team:
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    Plus, Dunn and Lavelle, who might've been the breakout US players in this World Cup, weren't on the team 4 years ago...
     
  18. hotjam2

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    not saying it wasn't a great idea, but she only made one starting lineup change in the last 5 WC games ~~~Press for Pinoe vs England. I'm willing to bet that was the least amount for any of the other teams that made it through five games

    and we're by far the deepest country in the deepest country in the world in woso, Just checking the numbers ; the US has 2-3 million females that play organized soccer whereas a moderate-large country like #4 France who gave their latest figure at 178K
     
  19. taosjohn

    taosjohn Member+

    Dec 23, 2004
    taos,nm
    Did anyone seem tired? Hurt? Not able against any team they played against? I did not see much reason to fix what was working fine...and everyone rostered played, IIRC. Seems to me you are arguing that the right players started, and that they were prepared properly and their limitations were properly understood. IOW, the coaching was spot on...
     
  20. jackdoggy

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  21. lil_one

    lil_one Member+

    Nov 26, 2013
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    Midfield: Horan had 2 starts in the last five games over Mewis (although Mewis also started in one of those games over Ertz).
     
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  22. Roger Allaway

    Roger Allaway Member+

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    Teams that win the World Cup, both men's and women's, tend to settle on a steady lineup as they get deep into the tournament. The knockout rounds of the World Cup are not a time for experimentation. In both 1991 and 1999, the USWNT started the same 11 players in all three knockout-round games.
     
  23. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
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    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
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    Incorrect opening statement.
     
  24. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
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    you don't seem to understand just how popular woso is in the US, they were way, overwhelming favorites to win the WC. If Ellis used her 11 benchwarmers instead, she most likely would of won the WC. Heck, even if she nixed the 23 & went with a B team, she could of won the WC(though the odds would of been much closer).

    and I've given Ellis heads up with the tactics she used ~~~obviously well condtioned along with high press/heavy pressure on whats the traditional weakness in woso, not able to clear the ball from the back.

    and that's the concern what the new coach tactics will be like? I mean just looking at Canada; never a real popular coach, Herdman's tactics were on par with Ellis, perhaps more roughhouse & it got him results......twice 3rd best team in the world in a major tournement(Olympics), and thats with 9 times less the population to choose from)) whereas the current CA coach might play way more elequently, he fails so badly that his team most likely will be kicked out of the top 10 in the future
     
  25. hotjam2

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    just remembered, Herdman beat the crap out of the US men's team last nite, lol
     

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