MLS Coaching and Front Office - News & Discussion Thread 2019

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by xbhaskarx, Jan 4, 2019.

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The next MLS coach to get fired will be...

Poll closed Jul 4, 2019.
  1. Adrian Heath

    23 vote(s)
    29.1%
  2. Alan Koch

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Anthony Hudson

    9 vote(s)
    11.4%
  4. Ben Olsen

    3 vote(s)
    3.8%
  5. Brad Friedel

    8 vote(s)
    10.1%
  6. Brian Schmetzer

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. Domenec Torrent

    11 vote(s)
    13.9%
  8. Frank de Boer

    10 vote(s)
    12.7%
  9. Giovanni Savarese

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. Greg Vanney

    1 vote(s)
    1.3%
  11. Guillermo Barros Schelotto

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  12. James O'Connor

    6 vote(s)
    7.6%
  13. Jim Curtin

    7 vote(s)
    8.9%
  14. Luchi Gonzalez

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  15. Marc Dos Santos

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  16. Matias Almeyda

    2 vote(s)
    2.5%
  17. Mike Petke

    1 vote(s)
    1.3%
  18. Remi Garde

    2 vote(s)
    2.5%
  19. Veljko Paunovic

    9 vote(s)
    11.4%
  20. Wilmer Cabrera

    1 vote(s)
    1.3%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
  2. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  3. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How Colorado's Robin Fraser is breaking ground for black coaches in MLS

    https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...aser-colorado-rapids-african-american-coaches

    Going back to our "African American coaches" discussion this article calls Fraser an African American, and talks about him returning to his "native Denver", then later calls him Jamaican-American. Fraser didn't move to Denver for the first time until after college and yes, was born in Jamaica.
     
  4. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    FWIW, Ivan McKinley would also count as "African-American." Not that he's coaching anywhere or anything, but it can get confusing when you keep trying to put people into boxes when it really doesn't fit.
     
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  5. TheRealBilbo

    TheRealBilbo Member+

    Apr 5, 2016
    Would Alan Koch count? He's more African-Canadian, American.
     
  6. AeroNaught

    AeroNaught Member+

    Atlanta United
    Feb 14, 2007
    Birmingham, AL
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Interesting that two of the most successful African Americans that retired this year (Beasley and Howard) seem to be moving away from the coaching scene...could be personal reasons or something more cultural (I have no idea).
     
  7. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    The writer was obviously confused by the legalization of pot.
     
  8. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #1358 Bill Archer, Oct 9, 2019
    Last edited: Oct 9, 2019
    Perhaps they're just following paths that they find of interest or they want to explore. Just spitballing here.

    Look, this isnt the NFL which is chock a block full.of American black men who want to try coaching.

    The list of successful black American players is a pretty short one. More than a few have had fairly lengthy runs but no one is clamoring for Marvell Wynne to come in and take the reins

    Guys like Earnie Stewart ( who could get a coaching job any time he wanted) and Robin Fraser are rare.

    ( Although the sight of a bunch of white middle class internet shut ins filling BigSoccer with arguments about who is authentically black or American or black American to suit their personal standards is always good for a chuckle)

    As much as so many people want desperately to turn this into a racial.thing,-the same people who want to turn EVERYTHING - into a racial thing, btw, it seems to me that unless and until we get more young black players entering the system we arent going to have that many candidates entering the coaching ranks 15 years later.

    I'm prepared.for the requisite moral outrage.
     
  9. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  10. POdinCowtown

    POdinCowtown Member+

    Jan 15, 2002
    Columbus
  11. ElNaranja

    ElNaranja Member+

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Jul 16, 2017
    Maybe they weren't willing to buy out his contract?
     
  12. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Who you calling "them"? And Monterey is Quakes territory. :)

     
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  13. SoccerMan94043

    SoccerMan94043 Member+

    May 29, 2003
    San Jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
  14. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  15. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  16. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  17. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  18. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
  19. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    For all the problems with Chicago, Nelson Rodriguez had zero to do with death of Chivas USA. Yes, he was there, but that's like being told to sit the pilot seat with locked controls right before it hits a mountainside. He was hospice for Chivas USA. Now the Chicago Fire on the other hand, that's a fair discussion.
     
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  20. FoxBoro 143

    FoxBoro 143 Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I remember working for a supermarket chain in my high school and college years. The company had one store manager who would get transferred to stores right before they closed them, that was his specialty. He would manage them up until shutdown, determine which employees were worth keeping at other stores and such.
    I'm pretty sure that was Nelson's role at Chives, their fate was determined before he got there abd selling tickets wasn't a focus. Makes me wonder if the future of the Fire may have been looking different in Chicago when he came aboard.
     
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  21. PhillyMLS

    PhillyMLS Member+

    Oct 24, 2000
    SE PA
    Yeah, I mean he was hired in early 2014 after MLS bought the team and was looking for a new LA owner. By then even MLS admitted that Chivas was dead as they stated in the piece announcing his hiring that "The club will play as Chivas USA during the 2014 MLS season and will be rebranded with a new team name and logo as determined by the new ownership group". But he killed Chivas USA? Yeah, that is a big old no.
     
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  22. lurak

    lurak Member+

    Aug 24, 2007
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I don't know if it is true, but there are suspicions that Nelson was brought in to the Chicago FO by MLS. The Fire fans cannot figure out why he was given a 5 year contract. The Fire won back to back spoons, made the play in game, then bad again. Most owners would have fired both him and the coach, but the coach was given an extension, inexplicably. We wonder if Nelson was brought in as a caretaker to facilitate the sale to a big money owner (Joe Mansueto). After all, Nelson still lives in New Jersey.

    We all know that Chivas USA was only mop up duty for MLS and Nelson, but if you combined Nelson's stint as GM for the Metrostars and Fire, it is not good.
     
  23. ElNaranja

    ElNaranja Member+

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Jul 16, 2017
    We'll know his role for certain if he takes Jordan's job when he is finally fired for his incompetence.
     
  24. STR1

    STR1 Member+

    Atlanta United
    United States
    May 29, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid

    Diego Alonso declined a job offer from Orlando claiming that "MLS is of low quality". He is set to coach in the Arabian League instead.
     
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  25. RafaLarios

    RafaLarios Member+

    Oct 2, 2009
    Medellín
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    So MLS didn't offer enough money it seems.
     
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