It is just logic. I dont necessarily agree, but many people seem to think MLS is comparable to the Championship. There is a wide gulf in talent from top to bottom. When you remove all foreigners you are removing the top players, so the over all quality goes down. I actually think there have been a lot of MLSers who have played for usmnt that couldn't hack it in the Championship.
The problem is, if he makes an outraged post about the past, you'll just post the stupid chicken video. So what's the solution? Just be happy with egg in the present!
Seriously? Is this going to be your MO? Attack the moral integrity of anyone that finds anything positive in the coach? What next? The guillotine?
give me a break. the win was nice but to claim that it was proof that Berhalter’s system is working because we beat a minnow? The game was neither an opportunity to tar and feather nor to laud the coach and/or the team. The poster chose to say it was proof of Berhalter system - it wasn’t. That’s why posters are responding “negatively” as the post I was responding to asked.
It's fine to have your opinion and disagree with someone else. However, you immediately called him Gregg's Mom and finally called him a shill. This is N&A and there are standards here.
There was a time when a better U.S.A. side would witness players from MLS n D.C. United specifically playing in their own home stadium find a way to let a Caribbean team back into the match. This at old RFK. So to watch a Berhaulter coached team win 7-0 in D.C. To hell with the details, we won scoring when our boys linked up and looked sharp doing it! This match was a step in the right direction. Which I think many of us were just hoping on, a positive showing and a solid team effort. On to Canada in Toronto.
there have been a series of new posters who have come on here since Berhalter was hired (Office space, this poster, etc) whose sole intent appears to be to back Berhalter’s decisions. Maybe they’re real posters but this comment is so beyond the pale given the circumstances, it’s ridiculous. There are plenty of posters, including yourself, who don’t either go to this extreme in dubious support of the Coach or subsequently get called out as a shill/related family member. @superdave doesnt ask every poster he disagrees with the chicken question, it’s the ones he finds extreme. for you to characterize it as “anyone who has anything positive to say about coach” is total bullshit and you (should) know that.
Pretty much the exact type of win-and-move-on game I expected. Second half was a let off, but that's fairly common in games where the first half is obliteration level. CP, though, a bit worrying if I'm being honest. I expected him to have a Morris/McKennie impact. Hopefully he looks more ready against Canada.
Hard to raise ones stock in this game but the people who lowered it would be - Pulisic - lovitz - Boyd - Lletget - roldan And just for @Excellency, I’ll add McKennie.
Its not just Cuba. We tried it against Mexico. Obviously not successfully, but this is a young group...there will be ups and downs. No need for the hypercynicism. This is a time of program growth to be enjoyed. It is a significant period in US Soccer.
Hyperpolarized contraposed outragefests are the way of the world. Im just not interested in the outrage....it’s boring. I am interested in the possibility that the program mindset may finally be changing from reactive to proactive, however. That piques my interest no matter who the coach is.
Just to clarify...i go to chicken fornication over Michael Bradley obsessives. Like, when a thread is named for another player, and Bradley comes up.
Once upon a time, Cuba made Wondolowski look like a competent international player. Any positive conclusions drawn from this game should keep that in mind...
On the surface that seems true but I wouldn't worry too much about Pulisic. As good as McKennie was, if the ball didn't fall to his feet 3 times we wouldn't be talking about him so much. The reality is almost that every US player was so much better than their Cuban counterpart that the law of diminishing returns kind of shows itself in Pulisic's performance. It's kind of like if I was marking Tab Ramos (in his prime) and my brother was marking Messi...Ramos might just dribble by me all game and Messi wouldn't get a touch. (ok, I'm sure he would get a touch but you get my point I hope). Against better opposition Pulisic will probably be far more influential because we need him to be more influential. (I hope that makes sense...it's kind of convoluted I think) As for the first part, I agree 100%. Not much you can take away from it...just move on. About the only think that MIGHT be possible is to get some hints about what Berhalter is thinking. Has Yuell moved up in the pecking order past Trapp? Is Sargent closer (in Berhalter's mind) to challenging for Zardes' spot? How does Berhalter see Ream going forward? (primarily LB or CB?) How about Boyd? He didn't even start this throw away game... That being said, about the only thing a game like that is actually good for is getting into bad habits that the good teams will punish you for.....
What would make many of us happy, I suspect, and certainly me, would be genuine progress in how we play against strong teams. I am sick and, yes, tired, of we being told to not worry about the crap we offer against anyone of quality because "Minnow X" or "Mite Y" or " Mote Z" made us look good by comparison. This is not "negativity", it is frustration at the lack of honesty as to where we are and the refusal to face what we need to do just to recapture the place held in the first decade of this millennium . We actually have a federation, and people on these boards, who are seriously [apparently] telling us to be happy because we can show we are a full cut above a Cuba. 16 years ago we fought Germany to a true standstill in the quarterfinals of the World Cup, and now we are kindergarten children encouraged to feel good because we can quaff a pint of Kool-Aid. Enough of this merda.
Lol Acceptable responses: This is NA and.... That was tame Where are the nazi references. You didn’t connect this topic to Trump somehow. Etc. [emoji3]. Just having fun
Always happy to see an emphatic win. Fun to watch, more please. Of course, against Cuba this is expected so hard to make much out of it. And if we want to talk playing style; fine, it works when we have more talent at every position than our opponent but in those cases practically any playing style will get you a solid win if players execute at all. If it don't scale up, it's meaningless. When we've been against better teams it thus far has not worked. Beating up on Cuba does not change this.
What can you say in games like this? But, players looked engaged and in good spirit including post-match as pointed out by @wixson7. That is something I look for regardless of outcome.
sigh. this is the way our world is today. 1. a new poster makes a hyper-partisan statement that almost, but not entirely as we’ve seen, all Berhalter supporters don’t support. 2. when opposing posters rise to the bait due to the outrageously partisan post, the OP claim moral superiority and shock at the “outrage”. SMH.