The Red Baron: Josh Sargent at Norwich City

Discussion in 'Yanks Abroad' started by Dave Marino-Nachison, Oct 11, 2016.

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  1. HockeytownHeel

    HockeytownHeel Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    Jul 23, 2018
    Eintracht are tired.. should be interesting to see a rested bremen that almost beat Dortmund play what is a pretty good Eintracht team.

    Looking forward to it and I think that Bremen at least gets a point today. Eintracht are struggling of late.
     
  2. hype25

    hype25 Member

    Jul 17, 2016
    Just made a nice run behind the Eintract back line, his shot with his off foot (a bit of a tough angle, but possible) is kick saved but the ensuing rebound is put in

    1-0 Bremen
     
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  3. twoolley

    twoolley Member+

    Jan 3, 2008
    Was really good movement heading outside than in on a counter attack. Sent one defender complete wrong way with his movement.
     
  4. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pleased how Sargent played, even w/out a stat. Run and shot helped create lone goal and was precise in hold-up. Won more 50/50's than opposition and distributed coolly to teammates to maintain possession. Starved of much service. Bremen pinned back and teammates over-dribbled when pass was there. Field was sloppy and Frankfurt had a hometown ref.

    Deserves mention he pressed well and checked back to help on defense + get some clearances.

    7.5/10 performance to me. Not a legit sub by the manager. He was one of the best on his team and still active at the time of his departure.
     
  5. felloveranddidanadu

    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Dec 12, 2009
    Club:
    San Jose Frogs
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Lol, a good PSA for the perils of match stat trackers. FotMob had him worst on the field at 5.8
     
  6. twoolley

    twoolley Member+

    Jan 3, 2008
    Did well when on the ball for the most part. Don’t think he’s very good or comfortable as a winger. He wasn’t on the ball as much as I would have liked.
     
  7. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Whoscored is better, even though all metrics have flaws. More reliability than the human eye, less potential validity because they don't take many factors out of the player's control into account.

    They gave him a 6.62, which is at least better than one Bremen player and 4 from Frankfurt. In his case, it didn't help that he came off early. They reward you for more positive involvements and don't discredit you as much for negative ones unless they're major or voluminous. Werder's deeper lying players got more action in this match.

    Also, the field sloppiness and reffing made for a highish luck/unlucky factor. Werder draws level late w/out Sargent on the field because a keeper doesn't get across well on the muddy pitch allowing a rebound which the defender should get to easily but he can't change directions so fouls in the box. The ratings of those involved go up/down.

    Sargent deserves to be viewed as an asset to put Werder in position to secure a draw on the road against one of the better teams in the league. Should retain starting spot.
     
  8. glutton4Bolts

    glutton4Bolts Member+

    United States
    Mar 18, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That is flat out ridiculous. His touches on transition are pretty darn good. His run setup the 1st goal... he gets back and fights on D. Hard to be great when you are starved for good service. That being said.... he should have scored on that great run he made. It just seems like US players can't hit the back of the net to save their lives. He only has one more game before he likely goes back on the bench. Was hoping for at least another goal if not two.
     
  9. kba4life1

    kba4life1 Member+

    Jul 14, 2010
    Irvine, CA
    Crazy that he was played as a winger when skinny, slow, and non skilled Bittencourt played as a false 9.

    Sargent played solid as a CF away at Dortmund last week, in a game they conceded possession. Same tactics, theoretically away at Frankfurt today.

    Kohfeldt does some puzzling stuff.
     
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  10. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    how were the ratings for the rest of Bremen's squad?
     
  11. felloveranddidanadu

    Plymouth Argyle FC
    Dec 12, 2009
    Club:
    San Jose Frogs
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Davy Klassen highest at 8.3, team average 6.9. As noted above, hard to put too much stock in these things...doesn't factor in defensive pressure, offensive runs to make space, positioning to affect plays, etc, etc. I think a lot of Sargent's game is predicated on those things, hence is reflected poorly (at times) in such barometers.
     
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  12. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Their first goal came because they actually passed him the ball as he devised one of those off the shoulder moves to get behind the cb's. It was there more than once during the game but he didn't get the ball. My feeling is that Radish is eager for that "high scorer for Bremen" title. He would score more if he gave the ball more to Sargent because Sargent has always been very much a give and go type forward.

    Lucky for Sargent they have an excellent midfield.

    Sarge is improving every game, imo. This is really his rookie season as a starter because he was pretty much ballast for the bench last year.

    Notice the use of that nautical term there in honor of seaport Bremen, once the home port of the largest merchant fleet in the world "DDG Hansa".
    from wiki
    in 1914, the line had 66 steamships and one motor-powered ship, and with a total Gross Register Tonnage of 437,789, was the world's largest freight shipping company and the third largest shipping company in Germany.[2]

    World Wars[edit]
    In World War I the company lost 81 vessels, a total of 437,489 GRT,[3] all but one ship,[1] the Soneck, with which service to Spain resumed in August 1919

    Now that's what you call relegation.
     
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  13. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    who's the top scoring Yank in the Bundesliga? Is Pulisic or Wynalda?
     
  14. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    Thomas Dooley, with 20 goals.

    Ibisevic would be the #1 (born in Bosnia, grew up in Missouri), with 123 goals, but he chose Bosnia.

    After Dooley (who was born in Germany) we have Fabian Johnson (also born in Germany) with 18 and after that Pulisic with 13.

    After that, Wood (10), Bradley (10) and Wynalda (9).
     
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  15. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Thanks.

    I could have sworn Pulisic scored more than that. I forgot about Bradley's time in Germany.
     
  16. glutton4Bolts

    glutton4Bolts Member+

    United States
    Mar 18, 2019
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It is not a very high bar... A world class striker approaches or passes 20 goals in a season.... Kind of a sad remark on US players in that league if you ask me.
     
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  17. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Our guys seem to do better in the lower divisions. There was some player who seemed to score a lot in the 3 Bundesliga. I wanna say Matt Taylor or maybe Matthew.
     
  18. FirstStar

    FirstStar Hustlin' for the USA

    Fulham Football Club
    Feb 1, 2005
    Time's Arrow
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ryan Coiner knocked in double digit goals (each year) for Union Berlin and Holstein Keil, but he didn't stick in Germany after those two years. Mark Heider scored a lot in BL3, playing for Werder's second team. Matt Taylor was at Preußen Münster and showed up on the Goal Scorer's list for a while, but not at Mark's level of production.

    We used to track goals and clean sheets here on YA (I did a lot of that work and then others took over for a few years before it died out). It's a pretty good resource stretching back to Run DMB at PSV and McHead at Fulham. Search "Yanks Abroad Goal Scorers List" in thread titles and you will find all those old threads.
     
  19. Gorky

    Gorky Member+

    Jul 28, 2006
    NYC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Matt Taylor did kick ass for like one season.
     
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  20. LouisianaViking07/09

    Aug 15, 2009
    Thanks for posting!!! It does make me curious at how much a consistent goalscorer could earn at a 2/3 Bundesliga squad back in the 00s. I recall that Joe-Max Moore spent a few years in the 2 Bundesliga and was a regular scorer.
     
  21. WheezingUSASupport

    Dortmund
    United States
    Aug 28, 2017
    Something happened where we forgot about this kid whose starting and just scored a goal in the 7th minute!
     
  22. HockeytownHeel

    HockeytownHeel Member+

    Dortmund
    United States
    Jul 23, 2018
    I posted it in the gameday thread.. sadly I cant find a video of it.

    Flashscores usually has it posted seconds after a goal however they have had software issues of late so its not up
     
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  23. 60611

    60611 Member+

    Jan 23, 2007
    Chicago
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    It was a deflection (no risk of own goal but handcuffed gk) after nice one touch pass by Josh and return pull-back cross to him about 15-16 yards out. Footybite has numerous working streams.
     
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  24. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I'm just shocked that an American is starting immediately after an international break. How rare.
     
  25. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The goal:
     

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