The Official Matías Almeyda thread

Discussion in 'San Jose Earthquakes' started by Goodsport, Oct 7, 2018.

  1. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
    near Palo Alto, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why would Almeyda praise our fans? Have you seen any footage of River Plate games? Compared to Argentina or Mexico, playing in Avaya has so little atmosphere it could be in outer space. Playing in Avaya must be an embarrassment for him and his coaches.
     
  2. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Yeah, in Argentina, Toledo would not have exited the stadium alive after incorrectly reversing his own PK call. Our fans should be commended for their restraint.
     
  3. Scott Rohde

    Scott Rohde Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jul 28, 2018
    Reading the tea leaves (which I’m not very good at, so I could be wrong) I think Almeyda is leaving us. People say he wasn’t emotional on the sideline yesterday. Also I read his post game comments and they seemed a bit odd to me. It was mostly past tense and very little about looking forward to improving next year. He didn’t mention his 4 year plan at all which I would expect him too in this situation.

    The good thing about MA is that he showed this team can fight for a playoff spot with a good, fun, attacking style of play. We already knew we could fight for a playoff spot with boring defensive style of play.

    However it seems not practical for someone of MA’s quality to stick around here and just fight for a playoff spot. This is a guy who wins trophies. I’m sure MA has learned now that Fisher is not going to spend the money to compete with the top teams in this league.

    I have a feeling we will be hearing a lot about how MAs contract is structured. I don’t think the Quakes should let him go without a fight. The 3 million number that was reported was way too low. Realistically we need 10m or maybe more. That would help pay for a really good DP or a few good DPs which can soften the blow for us. 3m is just not enough.
     
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  4. sj_oldtimer

    sj_oldtimer Member

    Nov 18, 2005
    Clovis CA
    You clearly could be correct. However, I would counter that even his coaches' alleged dissatisfaction might mostly be rooted in the fact that they had to endure the season with players they essentially inherited. I would hope that everyone waits to see if the club actually lives up to whatever promises it might have made when hiring. It's not like they coaching staff was unaware of their situation for this past season. My point is that it is not valid (IMO) for them to knowingly agree to an inferior roster for season 1 then leave at the end of that season because the roster was inferior. It is also unlikely that any of them were unaware of the league deficiencies before they arrived.
     
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  5. TyffaneeSue

    TyffaneeSue moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 15, 2003
    Upstairs
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    I don't think Almeyda realized how bad it would be, between the league's low estimation of our team and the budget-minded owners. Plus the staff he brought with him may have been initially thrilled with their salaries, only to realize that they couldn't really afford to live here.
     
  6. ColinMcCarthy

    ColinMcCarthy Member+

    Apr 2, 2010
    San Jose, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    My wife said yesterday that the team played like one that knows its coach is leaving. They did not play well yesterday.
     
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  7. TyffaneeSue

    TyffaneeSue moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 15, 2003
    Upstairs
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    We all agreed on this while watching the game. It was really the only explanation for the attitude they exuded. That, or they all drank too much at Angry Mark's favorite pub and had a massive collective hangover.
     
  8. 2in10

    2in10 Member+

    LA Galaxy, Internazionale
    United States
    Jun 19, 2016
    Sparks, NV
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They played like the guys they have been sending to us in Reno. No much energy or concern for how the game goes.
     
  9. markmcf8

    markmcf8 Member+

    Oct 18, 1999
    Vancouver, WA, USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Our fans are better than any other fans in our league, and Matias knows it.
    Our fans have been shafted by the league repeatedly, and Matias knows it.

    Go Quakes!!
    Go Quakesfans!!
    F@#$ MLS!!

    - Mark
     
  10. markmcf8

    markmcf8 Member+

    Oct 18, 1999
    Vancouver, WA, USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They were not drinking with me. :cry:
     
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  11. markmcf8

    markmcf8 Member+

    Oct 18, 1999
    Vancouver, WA, USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I bet they were unaware of our referees deficiencies.
    And I'm sure that Fisher/Jesse promised that they would spend real money on players, at least at the summer xfer window.
    I'm willing to bet that they made other promises which they did not fullfil. Our people talk a good game, but they don't deliver.

    We should find out soon whether he's staying or not. My bet is that he leaves.

    Go Quakes!!

    - Mark
     
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  12. TyffaneeSue

    TyffaneeSue moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 15, 2003
    Upstairs
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Look, if he were staying, someone would have issued a firm and reassuring statement by now. Best case, it's not yet a done deal and there's a tiny chance he won't leave. But I can't blame him for feeling angry/bitter about his time here, and deciding that it's best to write it off rather than throwing more time and energy at a hopeless cause.
     
  13. SalinasQuakesFan

    Mar 27, 2010
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Sure, what's the terms?
     
  14. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
    near Palo Alto, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I always thought it was strange that we didn’t hear about another Almeyda Argentine BBQ for the team. Seems like a guy like that would have done it more than once.

    But I would be okay for 2020 if the Quakes can hold onto Almeyda and his coaches for another year and make them happy, even if we mostly kept the same players, and just added another striker and a LB. Frankly, I’d like to see if Almeyda can keep these guys and make them even better (with the 2 additions), and go 2 rounds into the playoffs.
     
  15. markmcf8

    markmcf8 Member+

    Oct 18, 1999
    Vancouver, WA, USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think we need to replace our left back, Kashia, Vako, and Magnus. That’s four new starters. Maybe Lopez is better next year.

    And we need some new depth guys, maybe Cowell is one of those?

    Every other team in the league will try to improve also. So we need to do better than those other improvements. And somehow we need to keep Matias, which I don’t think we can.

    So next season will be yet another rebuilding year, and I see us losing thousands of fans.

    Go Quakes!!
    We Suck!!

    - Mark
     
  16. TyffaneeSue

    TyffaneeSue moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 15, 2003
    Upstairs
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    I've been trying not to think about this, but checked Twitter and found this thread:

    Soon enough it will all be mooth.
     
  17. Beckham7

    Beckham7 Member+

    Jul 10, 2001
    Northern, California
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good news

    https://www.am.com.mx/superdeportiv...s-que-se-queda-en-San-Jose-20191008-0040.html
     
  18. nivla

    nivla Member+

    Jan 17, 2003
    Milpitas
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    First two paragraphs google translated (from the article Beckham7 posted above):

    "Matías Almeyda met Tuesday with the players of San José Earthquakes with only one goal: to assure them that he will remain at the head of the club towards the next MLS campaign.

    Super Sports has confirmed the information with sources close to the coach and with two players who were in the meeting."
     
  19. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    If true, the news that Matias is staying is better than qualifying for the playoffs.
     
  20. Honore de Ballsac

    Oct 28, 2005
    France.
    #1920 Honore de Ballsac, Oct 8, 2019
    Last edited: Oct 8, 2019
    Hoping Wondo stays if Almeyda does.

    15 frigging goals. 36 years old. I have every reason to believe he could have a 10+ goal season again next year - given the way he scores goals. Not with rookie wheels. He scores mostly by eluding defenders' attention, for a few seconds or a few steps etc. We know this from the Lenny and Gordo days.

    The team got better in 2019 and deployed more threats, and better possession and service this year. And Wondo didn't have to carry the team, and its morale - and our morale - so much. As a result, he got 15 goals.

    Imagine if Almeyda stays - and we actually get to upgrade the roster some.
     
  21. staudio

    staudio Member+

    Mar 7, 2008
    Marin
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Didn't Wondo release a statement either today or yesterday that he wants to play one more season.....if so I hope that means he wants one more year in SJ with Matias as coach....if Matias was leaving not sure Wondo would want to endure another season with yet another new coach
     
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  22. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    I told Wondo he can't retire until Tom Brady does. So, we're good there. :)
     
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  23. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Considering we will have seen another 5-0 loss had we made the postseason, I tend to agree!
     
  24. Scott Rohde

    Scott Rohde Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jul 28, 2018
    Actually we would have played Seattle and we would have gone to a pk shootout. However most of our team would have hit the crossbar. So yeah, Almeyda staying for 2020 is still better news.
     
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  25. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "towards" the next MLS campaign? You can be headed "towards" a lot of things and still never get there.
     

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