The 2020 Election Mega Thread

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  1. dapip

    dapip Member+

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  2. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
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    I don't want to give Wohl & Co. credit which they absolutely haven't earned but if this happened to be true, which I mean OBVIOUSLY it isn't, but if it were, who gives a trump? Unless she's using campaign funds to pay off her young lover, which is a felony, I couldn't possibly care any less. As a matter of fact, I would hope she's having a jolly great time.

    Or does it matter because she's a she?
     
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  3. MatthausSammer

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    Any moral high ground the American right had on issues of the intersection of sex and power has been ceded a LONG way back.
     
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  4. KensingtonSC

    KensingtonSC Still Lazy After All These Years

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    1179833719902760960 is not a valid tweet id


    The real buried story here is the xXx tattoo, which is a movie that came out when this guy was about 7 or 8.
     
  5. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
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    This is supposed to be make Warren LESS likable? :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
     
  6. MatthausSammer

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    Bernie's "chest pain" was reportedly a heart attack according to the New York Times.
     
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  7. dapip

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  8. Boloni86

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    Not sure if you're being sarcastic. Either that or you missed the part I said about proportionality. Messam is polling at 0% which is proportional to zero coverage.

    Here's media coverage today: Notice any problems? Buttigieg is in 4th place in real life but gets buried at 7th in media coverage. And that's not nearly as bad as my boy Yang who is 6th in polling and 11th in coverage. I really don't care ... it's a free country and the media can do whatever it wants. But I do care when people claim that it isn't happening and everything is fair and balanced. If people are into opinion media, they should own it with pride.

    [​IMG]
     
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  9. MatthausSammer

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    #3884 MatthausSammer, Oct 5, 2019
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    I mean, that's generally quite proportional to the aggregate polling these candidates have done over the course of the campaign. There's probably a bit of correction for public name recognition over the course of the campaign, but overall that graphic genuinely doesn't help your case. It makes no sense to map the coverage from the entirety of 2019 onto the current polling in the moment right now, unless you expect the media to see the future.
     
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  10. ASU55RR

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    It sort of torpedoes the notion that Sanders is being deliberately ignored, although I do think there is an editorial bias to ignore him in headlines about the "front-runners"

    Also, what is Harris doing here? She may as well of just said I'm suspending my campaign...

     
  11. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    I'm OK with that. Republicans issue a partisan "guilty" without any regard for the facts; for example, nearly all GOP voters say that Hunter Biden is guilty of a disproven charge. I don't have any desire to emulate Republicans. They are not my role models.
     
  12. ASU55RR

    ASU55RR Member+

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    Except that Trump has already confessed to what he is accused; he just knows he has a stacked jury to protect him. Any poll shows that engaged democratic voters are strongly for impeachment and removal so waffling on this isn't going to revive a struggling campaign.

    Biden did a much better job with the question while also avoiding a firm answer, he said "I'm not going to speculate about what I would do", but took shots at Trump as well.
     
  13. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    She's a Senator. Trump is going to be impeached. There will be a trial in the Senate. She will still be a Senator. That means she is essentially a juror. She respects the process. Unfortunately respecting the process, rules, traditions and all of that are only things that Democrats do. If she somehow makes the ticket, pre-judging are something that will be used against her.

    Biden is not a current senator.
     
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  14. ASU55RR

    ASU55RR Member+

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    I will just leave it as I don't think its a wise political decision for a primary candidate.
     
  15. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    Impeachment is political. Removal from office isn't supposed to be... theoretically. She's not going to win the nomination.
     
  16. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    FFS. EDD was playing in the Finals when Biden tweeted. The game was on ABC. She was on the court.


     
  17. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Sunday's NYT has a deeply depressing article about rural America. To summarize the article, rural Americas's political mood is the reverse of that which helped to elect FDR. in the 1930s, the attitude was that we are all in this together, and government solutions were welcomed. We need to fix the problem together. Today, per the article, the attitude is resentment and individualism. The people making $10 to $13 per hour don't like the idea of anybody making more than that, and they don't want to pay any taxes, because they feel that their tax monies will go to help somebody else, not them. Every man for himself.

    Thus, writes the author (who was writing this from Arkansas I think), the Democrats have no chance of gaining ground. The voters support nihilism, not proposed solutions.
     
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  18. ceezmad

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    In FDR time we had a great depression that made people vote for government solutions.

    Then we got lucky and a world war helped us get out of that great depression.
     
  19. KensingtonSC

    KensingtonSC Still Lazy After All These Years

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    Say what you want about the tenets of national socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.
     
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  20. Dr. Wankler

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    Is that the one that revolves, in part, around the public library and the multiple objections that a librarian should be paid enough to at least pretend to be middle class occasionally?
     
  21. Boloni86

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    It doesn't help that the coastal left wing culture has been shitting on them comprehensively for many years.

    If you actually look at recent election data, many rural areas could easily get anywhere from 20% to 40% Democrat votes. But the progressive culture does not differentiate. When they don't get a favorable election result, they shit on that entire geographic region ... which means they're throwing their 20%-40% allies under the bus. This makes it increasingly difficult for those people to stay loyal to the Democratic party. It's hard enough holding out when you're a minority in your own community. It becomes even harder when there's a constant stream of hate towards your community coming from the coastal Democratic elites.

    This Big Soccer community is a perfect example of how liberals talk amongst themselves. About 25% of the posters in here are overtly hostile towards rural America. To the point where racial insults are common. Jokes about the opioid epidemic. I've even seen threads floating the idea that Trump voters should be banned from voting in the future. Very few posters push back, and the mods rarely respond. This is a form of bigotry that is very acceptable in modern progressive America, sometimes even used as a way for people to signal to each other about how woke they are.

    Instead of reaching out to that 20%-40% support and strengthening our coalition by taking them seriously, we just send a stream of hate their way. So the 40% becomes 30%. The 30% becomes 20% and so on ... And eventually liberals just get to the point you state in your post ... it's not even worth it. Let's just assume that they're all racist Trumpers and just wipe them off the political map.
     
  22. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    However if he said a freedom dividend would end racism you would take a different stance.

    There are so many things wrong with this take. I'm going to need a moment.
     
  23. The Jitty Slitter

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    Jul 23, 2004
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    Coastal elites for the win!

    Seriously that stuff is Jordan Petersen level conspiracy theories
     
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  24. Boloni86

    Boloni86 Member+

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    Is Big Soccer a conspiracy? Do I really need to spend the next few hours digging up all the acceptable racist nonsense that goes on in this forum? All the Whitelandia stuff? All the opioid jokes? All the meth jokes? And even worse?

    The fact that you think that behavior is acceptable, and even potentially virtuous, pretty much makes my point.

    You can't have it both ways. You can't shit on geographic regions and then wonder why your allies there are decreasing.
     
  25. Boloni86

    Boloni86 Member+

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    Baltimore
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    I'm struggling with this comment. Who's he? What does the freedom dividend hate to do with this? What does the freedom dividend have to do with racism?
     

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