Post-match: San Jose Earthquakes - Philadelphia Union (Wednesday, 9/25) postgame thread [R]

To state the obvious...

There is no doubt that the league would rather have Portland make the playoffs over us or Dallas due to the TV optics so “we get what we get and aren’t supposed to get upset” when it comes to officiating

 

Glorious!!!!!!!

 

Yet, for the season, our opponents have been whistled for more fouls than we have, 411 to 399.

 

Not all fouls are created equal.

 

You are 100% correct. The more I watched that replay the more convinced I was. I thought the way to shield a ball is to stay between the ball and the other player and move in the same direction of the ball, following it. That way you can claim you are not obstructing play, but playing the ball yourself and choosing to let it run. If you are running away from the ball's path and into the player you are obviously not playing the ball. Doing that elsewhere on the field would be a foul, as it should have been here.

 

Since we all seem to agree that the Quakes should have been awarded a PK on a play they were awarded a PK, until they weren't, let's sort out what this reveals.

-- The ref got it right in real time. He called the PK.

-- Then VAR told the ref he needed to take a look at the replay.

-- After looking at the replay of action which we all agree was a penalty, including the ref in real time, the same ref decided in fact the film showed it was not a penalty -- even though that is not what the film showed. And he reversed himself, in contravention of the actual facts, not to mention the clear and obvious standard required for reversal.

-- Eyewitness accounts of the refs body language throughout the review process revealed him to be uneasy.

None of this makes sense to me, unless the outcome of the game was scripted in some fashion and the ref was admonished for going off script. You can pass me the tin foil, but only if you can make sense of this episode in some other fashion.

 

one of the downsides of being a perennial small team is that we might need to do a bit more to win. there may be a bias in play (bias is always a tough thing to measure), and a subtle expectation that we will lose (we always lose, that's what's expected of a small team and sadly, thanks to Fisher, that is our entrenched culture), and that may be reflected in the calls on the field, possibly, maybe, at times, but that didn't hurt us earlier in the season when the team was playing sustained attacking football, creating chance after chance and winning games based on skill and determination, and not leaving much room for ref bias. we've gotten worse as the season has progressed, we've lost some of that early season mojo, ejections and a scoring drought and defensive blunders have been our undoing. these are variables that we have more control over, Quakes should worry more about getting their swagger and confidence back and bring the attacking game. we need reinforcements, obviously, but we also need to be more disciplined, both on the field and on the sidelines.

 

I agree with the above two posts. Add to that the perfect confluence of events adding up to Espinoza, Wondo and Mateus being ejected, and the way the league played up Wondo in the supporter's section.

The plan was the Quakes were supposed to lose. And the league made sure it happened.

 

it was all drawn up in DG's evil lair...muah hahaha, its basically like WWE only worse!

 

I admit that I have an evil lair. So that part of the equation is not in dispute.

 

Sorry I was referring to Garber and was just about to change it so as to not confuse evil lairs.

 

Should we all wear tin foil hats on Sunday?
Especially the ones going to Avaya...

 

Garber has an evil lair and is also an evil liar...

 

Great idea.

 

I’ll wear one if you will!

 

I'm ready.

 

And doesn't the drama seem manufactured by the league, IE: All the games are on Sunday?

 

The league in this regard is a sham...the manufactured Decision Day drama.

It is high time some soccer pundit who isn't scared of MLS repercussions wrote an article highlighting the strange and bizarre intrusive ref and VAR decisions that enable the tight bunching of teams during the run up to Decision Day.

The stench from the Portland and San Jose games was too much to ignore.

Maybe it's time for another Brian Strauss inner circle expose....this time on the peculiar oddities of MLS reffing....bottomline it has nothing to do with incompetence, and everything to do with influencing outcomes.

The league stepped over the line to the point it is blatant an obvious for all to see...they exposed themselves.

They need to be called out...

I've been a Quakes fan since 1974 and it makes me sick we have to put up with this shit while we support our team.

 

I didn't see the Portland game. What happened there?

 

NE was given a PK in the last min of 7 min of injury time...Portland was up 2-1 at the time. There was a shirt tug in the box and a PK was given to NE The exact same thing happened only worse and more obvious early in the game to the Portland forward...no PK was given. Their GM went off on the reffing after the game and was fined a tidy 100K..I think they're being a little defensive....getting assailed for the bogus intrusive reffing probably struck a nerve.

 

What would be a good sign to go with the tin foil?

• no MLS conspiracy today
• The right call at the right time, please
• No VAR

Need something better...

 

How about: The fix is in and we're out.

 

PRO admits the call was wrong. Should have been a PK.


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