EURO 2020: Reigning, Defending, Champions Of Europe General Discussion

Discussion in 'Portugal: National Teams' started by GoodDead, Nov 20, 2018.

  1. grassman

    grassman Member

    May 18, 2006
    Toronto
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
     
  2. SCP_16

    SCP_16 Member+

    Aug 8, 2004
    Bay Area
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal

    I'm living rent-free in your tiny little head. Love it! :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
     
  3. Nani_17

    Nani_17 Member+

    Nov 3, 2011
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Semedo was terrible against Serbia, there is no doubt about that, but did we already forget that he was very good against both Switzerland and Netherlands. I prefer Cancelo as our starter and I'd like R.Pereira forgiven for his defensive blunders so he gets another crack at it, but Semedo is still a valid option imo.
     
  4. eurodad

    eurodad Member+

    Mar 15, 2005
    Brampton
    Nelson is much better attacking than defending.
    I prefer a solid defensive defender. Our defence has been like Swiss cheese
     
  5. Jonathan Pimentel

    Aug 29, 2013
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    In regards to what? Bruno Fernandes?

    You do realize soccer is becoming like all the other sports and is run by nerds with computers who value players based on certain numbers they plug into their algorithms, right?

    Manchester United, a club in desperate need of a CM withdrew their bid on Fernandes because their nerd team suggested they do not place a bid on him. Why? because their numbers show Bruno gives the ball away and looses possesion to frequently.

    Im not sure what games you are watching, but when Fernandes isnt playing some small Portuguese team.. his good games arent a constant..
     
  6. grassman

    grassman Member

    May 18, 2006
    Toronto
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Pizzi level, I've already shown the numbers.
     
  7. SCP_16

    SCP_16 Member+

    Aug 8, 2004
    Bay Area
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal

    Man U is an example of a terribly ran team. They spent 80 f*cking million on Maguire. That's a terrible example. Besides, everything about Man U or any other teams' alleged offers are all hearsay and speculation, so not entirely sure you're regarding everything as fact. Maybe just a confirmation bias to support your ridiculous claims.

    If you went to talk about turning the ball over left and right, look no further than your boy Sanches who passes the ball to the advertising boards and plays for the almighty Lile now :ROFLMAO: Hell, even your boy Felix gives the ball away way too much. Lost 2-0 to Sociedad yesterday, was removed from the game after 57 minutes and had a match rating of 5.6

    But yea, he's the next Ronaldo!!!! :ROFLMAO:

    This is exactly what I mean by the Lampiao media and fixed Portuguese league inflating players' values.

    At the end of the day, Bruno is the highest goal scoring midfielder in European history. Those are facts.
     
  8. Jonathan Pimentel

    Aug 29, 2013
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    I never said Manchester United was a team that was run well. My point is, they withdrew their bid because the numbers indicated Bruno Fernandes turns over and looses the ball to frequently. It has nothing to do with Manchester United and how their team is run.. these are numbers that ultimately any team would be capable of pulling up and they would register the same regardless of who was looking at them.. it merely an example indicating teams have stepped away from him because of such things..

    To be honest, it seems to be your the one in this forum who is constantly bringing up club teams.. i personally dont care where someone is playing.. All those years Quaresma and Nani.. even now with Patricio, Pepe, William, Danilo, Fernandes, Ronaldo, etc etc.. none of whom are Benfica based players.. i cheer for every single one of them.. so not sure where you get off with this Renato Sanches being my boy claims (infact, i was begging for him to be subbed off in Euro 16 v France, his positioning was horrible and you could see how inexperienced he was... getting moved around with ease).. but whatever..

    Bruno Fernandes is not world class. He is not national team material (atleast now in the manner he is being deployed currently under Fernando Santos).. so unless something changes, which i doubt it will.. he is hurting the NT more then helping.. and btw, i would love to see him slotted into the middle and given a chance through the CM role.. but i also feel that way about Bernardo Silva, and felt the same way about both Joao Mario and Andre Gomes.. we know how that turned out.
     
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  9. SCP_16

    SCP_16 Member+

    Aug 8, 2004
    Bay Area
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal

    Please provide a reputable source that specifically states that Man U withdrew their bid because he loses the ball too frequently. Did you have this discussion with someone internally within Man U? Or are you referring to a bullshit tabloid like The Sun? Ironic you mention Bruno losing the ball too frequently. That's all I saw Felix do against Switzerland.

    I thought Bruno had a good game against Lithuania. So did Felix. And so did Bernardo, who is easily the second best player on this team, IMHO. Again, this ain't a club infatuation. It's simply me pointing out that only overhyped Benfica youth get called up now to the national for the aforementioned reasons listed in my previous posts. All of which you've still neglected to address.


    As far as Bruno being world class, he's Europe's highest scoring midfielder. Again, those are facts. Feel free to neglect the facts and let your hard-on for SLB cloud your judgment.
     
  10. eurodad

    eurodad Member+

    Mar 15, 2005
    Brampton
    There will never be a direct quote from management as to the reasons they dont sign a player. Instead what happens is that things get leaked out to the media. It was reported in several newspapers and media sites (example Mail) that scouts expressed concerns about Bruno's risk taking and number of times per game he turns over the ball. I believe this to be factual. What they ( stupid idiots ) did not take into consideration is that his numbers will be higher than most at his position because of how much Sporting rely on him. Its all going to go through him. They should have looked at the percentage of goals that Sporting scores that Bruno either scores or has a role in.
    Im a huge fan of Bruno . Huge mistake by Man U.
     
  11. SCP_16

    SCP_16 Member+

    Aug 8, 2004
    Bay Area
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    They just made De Gea the highest paid GK in the world. What else needs to be said about how poor their judgement is.
     
  12. Nani_17

    Nani_17 Member+

    Nov 3, 2011
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    When they paid 80m for Maguire and did nothing to improve their mediocre team despite having the finance's, they should have lost thousands of supporters.
     
  13. Jonathan Pimentel

    Aug 29, 2013
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    So, i wasnt going to sit here and go through tons of articles backdating atleast one month.. a quick search brought this up.. ESPN is pretty reputable IMO.

    Anyways, while this isnt the specific article i was referring to, you can enjoy this instead:

    https://www.espn.com/soccer/soccer-transfers/story/3921498/sources-united-doubted-fernandes-quality

    Someone also mentioned another source that claims the same ideas.
     
  14. Jonathan Pimentel

    Aug 29, 2013
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Man Utd has made a lot of mistakes. I dont believe not emptying the wallet for Bruno Fernandes is one of them, though.

    I gotta imagine your making an assumption when you state they did not factor the amount of plays run through Fernandes? It would be pretty odd for a team hired to look at numbers not factor into the %'s he is used during the game and relate that to the lost possession.

    I could be wrong, ofcourse. Its just hard to imagine they didnt factor things like that into the decision.
     
  15. SCP_16

    SCP_16 Member+

    Aug 8, 2004
    Bay Area
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal

    Well then you don't watch enough Bruno Fernandes. Same can be said for Atletico overspending on an unproven and inexperienced teenager like Felix.
     
  16. eurodad

    eurodad Member+

    Mar 15, 2005
    Brampton
    You are assuming competence, Im not. I respect your opinion of Bruno, I feel different. Respect
     
  17. SCP_16

    SCP_16 Member+

    Aug 8, 2004
    Bay Area
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    Yea Bruno and his “giveaways” couldn’t help Manchester United today in their 2-0 loss.
     
  18. Jonathan Pimentel

    Aug 29, 2013
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    Man, give it up.

    The guy has had a 4 year spell in Italy, it didnt work out well. He is 25 years old now.. and is playing in Portugal. I mean, if he was really wanted else where teams would have splashed on him and he wouldnt be in Portugal at this point in time.. but he is..

    To be completely honest, the way teams are spending money on players in the modern transfer market.. especially players who even in my opinion arent nearly as good as Bruno Fernandes.. it speaks volumes about what teams truly think of Bruno Fernandes if they were not able to reach an agreement with Sporting for his services.
     
  19. SCP_16

    SCP_16 Member+

    Aug 8, 2004
    Bay Area
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Nat'l Team:
    Portugal
    I already explained why teams spend money on overrated trash like Felix and Sanches. It's because the pro SLB media overrates them, coupled with playing in a league that is fixed to benefit specific teams (SLB), regardless of how poorly they perform. But whatever you If you say buddy!
     
  20. The Special One

    The Special One Member+

    Aug 6, 2005
    How do domestic publications have any effect on how much foreign clubs pay for a player. What your saying doesn’t make sent.

    I think Bruno Fernandes is world class but the truth is sporting is a shambles of a club at the moment. Foreign clubs know that they are weak at the moment & they’re trying to grab a steal from Sporting. I hope for Bruno’s sake he leaves soon to a bigger club to fullfill his potential
     
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  21. Ramos77

    Ramos77 Member

    Benfica
    Portugal
    Jun 24, 2017
    Bingo, Tottenham didn't sign him because of the negotiations with Sporting fell through, not because they thought we was suddenly crap...
     
  22. Joe Martelo

    Joe Martelo Red Card

    CDC Montalegre
    Portugal
    Sep 30, 2019
    Hello guys . I am a longtime lurker on this board. I am a big time Portugal fan.
    Benfiquista, Sportinguista, Portista, it don't matter to me. I am a Portugalista above all.

    I am pumped for the next two Portugal gamses.
    Who will Santos call up?

    I predict for next starting 11:

    Goal-Keeper: Rui Patricio
    Defence-men: Ricardo Pereira-Pepe-Dias-Guerrao
    Midfield: William , Danilo, Bernardo Silva, Joao Moutinho
    Forwards: Ronaldo, Rafael Leao

    Thoughts?
     
  23. Jonathan Pimentel

    Aug 29, 2013
    Club:
    SL Benfica
    I predict your starting 11 is no where close to accurate.

    Your RB is wrong.

    2 of your MD are wrong.

    Leao wont even be selected. (i hope i am wrong about this lol)

    I say all of that with respect to your opinion.

    Patricio
    Semedo Dias Pepe Guerrero
    B.Silva Neves William B.Fernandes
    Felix Ronaldo

    Not the line up i want.. just what i expect.
     
  24. Joe Martelo

    Joe Martelo Red Card

    CDC Montalegre
    Portugal
    Sep 30, 2019
    Well Felix had a good performance in champions league today so he will probably get the nod. I hope Leao gets selected.

    I am not a big fan of Semedo or Cancelo.
    Ricardo or Cedric for me. Diogo Dalot is a talent. Also Rafael Camacho from Sporting can become a good RB.

    In World Cup 2022 I predict this Portugal XI:

    ————Jose Sa———
    Camacho—Dias—R.Semedo—Vinagre
    ——————-Florentino———-
    ————Miguel Luis—-Bernardo-
    Felix—————-Leao————Gelson Martins
     
  25. AlexJones19

    AlexJones19 Member

    Aug 2, 2015
    Club:
    Sporting CP Lisbon
    Only 3 of that 11 will be starters at the World Cup, are you on the wind up ?
     

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