Pre-match: Real Salt Lake - San Jose Earthquakes (Wednesday, 9/11) pregame thread

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  1. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Vako and Kashia both played the full 90 for Georgia in Georgia yesterday. It should be possible to get to SLC but that's a rough turnaround. Godoy was not called up. Cummings played the full 90 in Panama last night, he could return. Fuentes just finished a 3 games in 5 days U-17 tournament in the Netherlands today. Marcinkowski is finishing U-23 camp today.
     
  2. Quakes05

    Quakes05 Member+

    Oct 1, 2005
    birthplace of MLS
    what a ridiculous amount of call ups at such a critical time in our season.
     
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  3. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
    MadCity
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Yeah - this game is a complete cipher. Given the large number of starters for each team out, I'd say it's impossible to handicap this one. I have no idea what we'll see, but I believe that if the subs (i.e. tomorrow's starters) have paid attention during training and fully bought into "bushido" we're going to do alright.
     
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  4. hc897

    hc897 Member+

    May 3, 2009
    San Jose, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    FIFA does not care about the MLS season. They have literally no reason to. MLS depends on FIFA sanctioning in order to attract quality players. So they let players go for stupid friendlies at critical times and try to work around those dates instead of just playing through them on their regularly scheduled weekend match days. And even when they try to work around these dates, players still end up not being ready in time for the MLS matches, so they are making their own lives more difficult for no real reason. It's unbelievably stupid.

    Honestly, pro leagues should realize that collectively, they have far, far more power than FIFA does. All FIFA does is mooch off the work of the pro leagues, and profits off those players while providing next to nothing in return. Yes, some players can use international games as a way to market themselves to bigger clubs that could pay them more, but that's becoming less and less relevant as time goes on.

    Problem is, the pro leagues would somehow have to agree to no longer release players for FIFA dates. And I'm sure there are numerous legal hurdles that make accomplishing such a thing very difficult, if not impossible.
     
  5. tvromero

    tvromero Member

    Jun 2, 2018
    A bunch of normal USMNT starters left camp after the Mexico game so it looks like it can happen.

    I am not thrilled to have our guys out but it is good marketing for both club and players and probably a dream for some of them so let it be.
     
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  6. hc897

    hc897 Member+

    May 3, 2009
    San Jose, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    If it's like the situation earlier this season, I imagine the USMNT probably let them return rather than MLS stipulating they be returned.

    You think the marketing angle really makes up for an owner paying players to go play and potentially be injured in games that have no impact on their team? FIFA holds them hostage and they have to put up with it. It's as simple as that.

    So no, we shouldn't just let it be. It's a completely broken system. If all the corruption scandals haven't turned you off of international soccer completely, then I don't know what to say.
     
  7. TyffaneeSue

    TyffaneeSue moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 15, 2003
    Upstairs
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    RSL is heavily promoting $15 tickets to this game. I guess it's a tough sell, being a midweek against a team that's perennially not worth watching.
     
  8. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
    MadCity
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Frankly, I'm more interested in my club than country, but I don't know that's a general sentiment. Of course, I also like to see the US playing well (and qualifying for WCs). Don't hold your breath waiting for FIFA to fold on this. The distribution of patronage and perks down the line ensure the regional and national federations are always going to line up behind the boys in Zurich, and since the leagues are dependent on the federations, they'll continue to effectively say: "Thank you sir, may I have another?"
     
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  9. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    I'm with you. Quakes uber alles.

    As the Ultras sing:

    . . . O'er the land of the free, and the home of the Quakes!
     
  10. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  11. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Most leagues don't schedule games during the international breaks.
     
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  12. hc897

    hc897 Member+

    May 3, 2009
    San Jose, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Yes, and I already explained why this is the case. If you are trying to offer up a good reason why MLS should adhere to these breaks instead of playing through them, "because everybody else is doing it" has never stood up as a good reason.

    FIFA dates have repercussions for professional leagues. In MLS' case, they have to seriously congest an already grueling schedule, putting undue strain on players and increasing their risk of injury. Ultimately, this impacts how much money the league could potentially make. FIFA isn't concerned about this because the individual players don't matter to them. They don't have much financial stake in any of those players. Individual national teams do, but FIFA does not.
     
  13. NedZ

    NedZ Member+

    May 19, 2001
    Los Gatos
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Latest injury report from MLS shows no injuries for the Quakes, so I assume Shea Salinas must be OK now.
     
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  14. Earthshaker

    Earthshaker BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 12, 2005
    The hills above town
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    RSL will be missing 4 of its 5 top scoring threats.
     
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  15. 2nd Mouse

    2nd Mouse Member+

    Apr 11, 2012
    Salt Lake City, UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Weather forecast for the game has been terrible, and we're notorious fair-weather fans, so turnout should be meager. It's raining right now but the revised weather looks good at game time so I think it'll be a lot of fun. I always like watching games against you guys - never know what's going to happen - and with all the callups, tonight should be especially...interesting.

    Cheers.
     
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  16. Beerking

    Beerking Member+

    Nov 14, 2000
    Humboldt County
    How many people in a "meager"? :D

    I can honestly say I have zero animosity towards RSL and their fans, outside of the phantom red card dive. ;)
     
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  17. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Anyone going to Jack's for the viewing party?

    jacks mural tommy thompson.jpg
     
  18. dred

    dred Member+

    Nov 7, 2000
    Land of Champions
    My prediction:
    Quakes go all out and dominate possession in the first half but are unable to score.
    Second half starts out even, but RSL gains ground and scores in the 60th minute. Quakes start to visibly fatigue and give up a 2nd goal on a counter in the 87th minute.
    (Please make me look foolish.)
     
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  19. bsman

    bsman Member+

    May 30, 2001
    MadCity
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
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  20. TyffaneeSue

    TyffaneeSue moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 15, 2003
    Upstairs
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes

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