News: St. Louis gets expansion nod

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  1. Egbert Sousé

    Egbert Sousé Member

    NYCFC
    May 25, 2013
    nyc
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    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is anyone using Cosmos?
     
  2. eagercolin

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    Metro
    United States
    Aug 25, 2017
    Buffalo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I tried to get to Cohokia without GPS and ended up in an OTB in East St. Louis.
     
  3. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
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    Vanuatu
    How did your horse do?
     
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  4. ToMhIlL

    ToMhIlL Member+

    Feb 18, 1999
    Boxborough, MA
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    New England Revolution
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    United States
    Only if you pronounce it "Raaah-sing"
     
  5. balthrop

    balthrop Moderator
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    Aug 28, 2000
    Plano, Texas
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I know they're going to do it anyway, but can we make it part of the expansion agreement that you must choose an actual nickname from now on?

    FC is taken as both a prefix and a suffix.
    United is overused by 3 teams
    City is overused by 2 teams.

    The Stars would throw back to the NASL. The Steamers would throw back to successful MISL team.

    Pick an actual name. Please.
     
  6. PTFC in KCMO

    PTFC in KCMO Member+

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    St Louis Rams
     
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  7. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    Inter Miami is the only one of the last 9 approved team names to not be City, United or FC/SC. I think the evidence is pretty overwhelming this is where the league is comfortable.
    1. Orlando City SC
    2. New York City FC
    3. Minnesota United
    4. Atlanta United
    5. Los Angeles FC
    6. FC Cincinnati
    7. Inter Miami/Club Internacional de Fútbol Miami
    8. Nashville SC
    9. Austin FC
    10. St. Louis ?
     
  8. harrylee773

    harrylee773 Member+

    Jul 28, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Meh, nicknames are mostly too corny, cheesy, or other foodstuffy for my tastes. Let the nicknames come organically, or don't. We have the Lions for Orlando, The Feds for FCC, the Loons for Minny, and at least had Hoops for FCD for a little while - and teams like RSL that still don't have anything and that's fine (well, 'Real' aside it's fine). I say down with nicknames- if anything, I'm fine having a few team without the FC/City/United/whatever entirely. "St. Louis" would be just aces with me...
     
  9. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    St. Louis Aces?
    I kind of like it. Aces has a pilot meaning...could be a tip of the hat to Spirit of St. Louis.
    I know Aces is more of military meaning. Although, Lindbergh did participate in war flying missions even though he was a civilian.
     
  10. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    I would hardly take 2 or 3 teams out of the current 24 (or future 28) to be "overused". And FC/SC is just a fact - they're all football/soccer clubs. Same with any other league.

    Not that I don't want a more unique name - I proposed Confluence earlier and wouldn't be opposed to Stars either. But I question your frame of reference.
     
  11. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    The Aces were STL's pro tennis club. Played for 18 seasons. I don't think the new soccer team would take that name.
     
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  12. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Eastern Missouri United. Because MLS is overdue for an emu mascot.
     
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  13. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I already know the shirt sponsor.

     
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  14. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    Not having defined nicknames also got us things like 5 stripes (even though in year 3 their jerseys no longer have 5 stripes) and Austin FC Broccoli ;)
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  15. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
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    You're forgetting your history. They've already tried this in that city. It didn't exactly work out.
     
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  16. falvo

    falvo Member+

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    San Jose & Florence
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    #216 falvo, Aug 21, 2019
    Last edited: Aug 21, 2019
    Just curious, will they revive the Stars name , colors and logo with a new 2022 twist to it?


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    Whether they were associated with the indoor team or not, how about the Steamers? They are most certainly identified with some Over 40 St. Louis soccer fans.

    Cool logo too!


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  17. harrylee773

    harrylee773 Member+

    Jul 28, 2004
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Clearly I am, or maybe there’s a joke flying somewhere over my head? Did they actually have a failed pro sports team with no nickname in St. Lou at one point? I know the ABA team had the ‘nickname’ before the city name but I can’t think of anything else akin to going sans nickname.

    Speaking of nicknames- since the city has a history of shared nicknames across sports (with both the baseball and football teams having the nickname ‘Cardinals’ for a couple of decades), I would be okay seeing that revived and having the soccer club and the new XFL team share a nickname. Quite frankly, the more teams we have named ‘BattleHawks’ in all sports, the better.
     
  18. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    With copyright laws being what they are now, I can't see any teams sharing names unless they have the same ownership and even then it would be doubtful in today's world.
     
  19. balthrop

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    Aug 28, 2000
    Plano, Texas
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    My frame of reference is that I am an American sports fan, specifically one coming from the Indoor pro game.

    FC Dallas was fine. Bland, but fine.

    Toronto FC was ok because the FC was at the end, and thus was not a duplicate.

    D.C. United stood out as classy among the horrible 1996 names.

    Atlanta United shouldn't have happened because there was already a D.C.

    Minnesota United absolutely shouldn't have been allowed because there was already a DC and an Atlanta.

    New York City was clever considering both the pun value and who they are co-owned by.

    Orlando City shouldn't have been allowed because there was already a New York.

    Cincinnati FC: see Toronto.


    :) Utica City FC absolutely shouldn't have happened in the Major Arena Soccer League because they are an indoor soccer team (I'm still trying to convince them to change the name to ASC at the very least). :)
     
  20. btharner

    btharner Member

    Jan 22, 2007
    Selinsgrove, Pa.
    St. Louis Showboats. Loved the name when Memphis used it in the USFL and this may be the best opportunity to bring it back.
     
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  21. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
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    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    #221 SiberianThunderT, Aug 21, 2019
    Last edited: Aug 21, 2019
    I believe @CMeszt was referring to the Saint Louis Athletica. When they were originally announced as joining WPS, they weren't called "the St. Louis WPS team" as a placeholder - they were literally called simply "St. Louis" with the original announcements making it sound like Cooper's group wanted to just stick with that. You can say they weren't successful since A) they added the "Athletica" before the first season started, and B) Cooper's phantom British associates vacated and let the team collapse midseason year two.

    I'm still more than a bit bitter about that collapse.

    =EDIT=
    Looks like we were typing the answer out at the same time. X-D
     
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  22. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    The women's pro team that later became Saint Louis Athletica originally launched by calling the team just "St. Louis", as in that was the name of the team...just "St. Louis". Needless to say they only lasted a couple months of doing that before giving in, because marketing and explaining it to people who aren't soccer message board galaxy brains went about as well as you'd expect.
     
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  23. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    1. The football team was originally the Chicago Cardinals.
    2. I’ve always been fascinated by Detroit having the Tigers, then the Lions, and Chicago having the Cubs, then the Bears. And the Mets, Jets, and Nets all being 2nd New York teams.
     
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  24. kgilbert78

    kgilbert78 Member+

    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    United States
    Dec 28, 2006
    Cowlumbus, OH
    Club:
    Borussia Mönchengladbach
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And, there are no original NFL teams in their original cities with their original names... (the Bears are the other one, and they were the Decatur Staleys originally). The NBA is almost as bad.
     
  25. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    There was also New York Giants baseball and football at the same time until 1957.
     
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