News: St. Louis gets expansion nod

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by KCbus, Aug 14, 2019.

  1. CMeszt

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    Farewell Sweet Prince
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    Gentrification's Apex.
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    Provel United.
     
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  2. SetPeace

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    Too cheesy.
     
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  3. Salvadanish

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    AKA, the St. Louis ... Mounders? :giggle:
     
  4. don gagliardi

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  5. RedRover

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    Aug 15, 2007
    St. Louis Pizza FC :D
     
  6. kgilbert78

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  7. kgilbert78

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    Either that or Almond Joys...

    ..."sometimes you feel like a nut"...
     
  8. don gagliardi

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    I see what you did there. :)
     
  9. Sport Billy

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    May 25, 2006
    #184 Sport Billy, Aug 20, 2019
    Last edited: Aug 20, 2019
    It truly amazes me how stupid some people are.
    When you quote numbers like this, it simply is screaming "I don't know what I'm talking about."
    You clearly have zero clue as to St. Louis.

    To state that "St. Louis ... has the highest violent crime rate per 100k in the US and 5th highest property rate." Is completely false.

    Those numbers belong to St. Louis CITY not St. Louis. What people fail to realize is that the city is minuscule. Compared to other big midwest cities

    Cinci - 206 sq mi
    Columbus - 223 sq mi
    Chicago - 228 sq mi
    KC, MO - 319 sq mi
    Nashville - 525 sq mi


    St. Louis City - 66 sq mi.

    So, Greater St. Louis has 8,458 sq mi and 66 sq mi (<1%) of that has a high crime rate with the vast majority of crime occurring in the north section.

    So while the City may have a homicide rate of 59.8 / 100,000, the greater St. Louis Area (which includes that high rated area) still only has a rate of 11.1 / 100,000.

    For example, in 2017, there were 205 murders in Greater St. Louis but 159 for within the city. That leaves 66 sq mi with 159 murders and the remaining 8,392 sq miles had 46. In fact, the Police Chief stated that "67 percent of the city’s 205 homicides last year and about half of the violent assaults happened within an area bordered by Goodfellow Boulevard, Vandeventer Avenue, Martin Luther King Drive and West Florissant Avenue."

    so thats about 20 sq mil.

    As far as metro areas go, St. Louis is safer than Indy, Anchorage, Milwaukee, Houston, Nashville, Fresno, NOLA, Memphis, Baltimore, and many many others. According to this, based on FBI data, it's not even in the top 25.
     
  10. kgilbert78

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    Cahokia is a cool place... Getting there? Not so much.
     
  11. don gagliardi

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    Not "stupid." "Ignorant." You've now educated him, if he was not already by the video I posted with the local criminologist explaining in academic jargon what you just have more emphatically.
     
  12. Sport Billy

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    May 25, 2006
    Update:
    According to this, St. Louis Metro isn't in the top 50
     
  13. superdave

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  14. superdave

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    Jul 14, 1999
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    St. Louis United Terriers

    Let’s go Sluts! Let’s go Sluts!
     
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  15. NeilB

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    Mar 17, 2000
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    How about St. Louis Regional Association of Men's Soccer?
     
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  16. Sport Billy

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    May 25, 2006
    St Louis has large populations of Irish, Germans, and Italians. I’d love for them to go with one and come up with a strong name and identity and bring it.

    My pick:

    St. Louis Shamrock

    The Shamrock and fleur-de-lis have a lot in common.
     
  17. Q*bert Jones III

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    Feb 12, 2005
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    In a nod to local agriculture, I'll suggest Queens Pork Rangers.
     
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  18. AndyMead

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    Uhm, they're not an MLS Original, that was the San Jose Clash/Earthquakes. They're a 2008 expansion team.
     
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  19. don gagliardi

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    Take it up with management.
     
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  20. ThreeApples

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    Perhaps Racing St. Louis? RSL for short.
     
  21. Zxcv

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    Maybe I'm overthinking it, but the all-female ownership doesn't inspire much hope in St Louis having a traditional soccer name. Feels like there'll be a monicker of some kind.
     
  22. Q*bert Jones III

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    Feb 12, 2005
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    Well, I for one can't wait to hear your rationale for this assertion.
     
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  23. American Brummie

    Jun 19, 2009
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    I'm sure it's been said already, but St. Louis is the 20th-largest MSA and only these larger MSAs don't have/will have teams:

    Phoenix (11th)
    Detroit (14th)
    Tampa (18th)

    (I have omitted San Diego/Inland Empire in California, one could quibble about that if one wishes, and combined San Jose/San Francisco)

    Meanwhile, the following smaller MSAs have teams:

    Orlando, Portland, Cincinnati, Austin, Kansas City, Coumbus, Nashville, Salt Lake City

    St. Louis is right in the vein of cities MLS is targeting. Tampa had a city, Detroit and Phoenix are offered up as expansion teams.

    If you wished to use combined statistical areas instead, only Detroit, Phoenix, Cleveland, (San Diego), and Tampa are larger and don't have teams.

    This is fine from a business perspective. As I've said before, there are enough people who like soccer to fill a 20,000-seat stadium in 100 cities in the country.
     
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  24. Minutemanii

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    That's good because lord knows KC is hated. :)
     
  25. kgilbert78

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    This was already commented on, albeit more subtly.
     

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