If I were the Chief Mediator, that Process would have been over before some parties had a chance to take their seats.
Huh? This is Mediation, not Arbitration. The purpose is to try to settle the case, not to send the parties home.
That’s completely separate. The 2015 scandal broke because US citizens and corporations were racketeering and using other fraudulent behavior on American soil in connection with FIFA, so the FBI had jurisdiction. BTW, fun fact, the person who originally sparked the investigation with his own finding (which were accurate and given to our FBI) was Brit Christopher Steele.
You keep saying this, but FIFA money is clearly relevant to the issue of comp, otherwise they wouldn't mention WC money at all. Now, they're certainly not going to explicitly tie WC comp to fed/team allocations based upon WC finishing positions, because that would weaken the argument. But by even bringing up WC winnings, the argument is effectively already on the table as part of an affirmative defense. It won't have an impact on FIFA, legally speaking, but it could have an impact on FIFA, operationally/financially speaking. How that could play out: Courts: All of the reasonable affirmative arguments don't right historic wrongs. You have historically underfunded the women's game. Inferior benefits, playing surfaces, training, etc...even if those have since reached equity. NWSL execs operate out of USSF. USSF has influence on how NWSL is packaged, and it was dumped on a suboptimal media outlet (Lifetime). Your ad spend on the team leading up to the WWC is inferior to the MWC. As such, you have in part created the "market realities" defense you're citing. And unlike a women's basketball coach who can jump from school to school, the NT soccer market is effectively a market of one anyway. There is no true "market". So you need to pay on much more favorable terms to "right the historic wrong". So hypothetically the court finds that they need to pay them both on equal terms for friendlies and that the WNT WC comp needs to be at least 50% of the MNT's for a similar placement. That puts an enormous hole in USSF's budget, with long term implications re: the ability for both teams to be as competitive. Team quality influences the broadcast revenue in future negotiations coming out of the US market. All in (English and Spanish), the US provided them with $550 million in broadcasting rights for the 2018 Cup. You think that FIFA might care about that? These is the same organization that won't permit pre-existing brick and mortar bars near WC stadiums from selling off-sponsor beer, requires govts not to collect taxes in catchments, etc.
Rapinoe and Press were on The Today Show and on GMA this morning talking about the USWNT lawsuit against US Soccer. Basically, the players are committed to continue after the breakdown in the mediation talks.
You keeps saying this, but WC money is important only because how the Federation distributes said money According the lawsuit, it doesn't matter where that money is coming from or how the original FIFA WC numbers were calculate or allocated. The Men's WC has a revenue of 6 Billion. The Women's WC has a revenue of a 130 million. FIFA paid a higher percentage of earnings to the women's teams than to the Men's. There's a reason this is missing from the lawsuit. As for your second point, I never said it wouldn't put some type of pressure on FIFA or start to move the needle, but legally speaking, this lawsuit has no effect on FIFA.
I wish this thread would go away, at least the recent part of it. It has turned into one of the dumbest threads I've ever seen on BigSoccer.
Is there anything dumber than someone spending the time to come on to a message board to complain about how dumb that message board is? Pinoe and Press on CBS this morning. "It's very simple for us, and it's not just about us, and it's not just about this moment, we're trying to do this on behalf of women everywhere, to be treated respectfully and paid lawfully, and the issue is just equality." - Press https://www.cbsnews.com/news/uswnt-...press-explain-why-equal-pay-talks-broke-down/
Did the reporter bother to ask what "equal" meant? (Save it, Lloyd; they're out manipulating public opinion as parties to a lawsuit. Even if it is strictly legal, it is ethically questionable.)
I'm just amazed how generous NWSL is with time off for their stars. It's almost like the players decide their own schedule.
Sure, but they get 70K a year to play in the NWSL. Press makes above NWSL max salary and is appearing on morning shows instead of training with her club. Is it fair to her Utah teammates? Can Steffen do the same thing and get a USSF salary? That's why the terms equal, merit and inclusion need to be defined.
I dont think the 70k is necessarily to play in the NWSL. Its just part of their NT compensation. This is the irony. If these players were not employees of the USSF, no one would be claiming that Pugh should be paid the same as Rooney.
That is just a stupid assertion that no one is making. The MLS and NWSL pay is not what the lawsuit is about at all. In fact Rooney is not involved at all because US Soccer does not pay any part of his salary. He is paid by the MLS and his sponsors and, should he ever get a callup again, the England Soccer federation. What the lawsuit wants is for US Soccer to pay the men and women equally for services at the national team level. While there is a somewhat complex part of the problem involving the USWNT contracts that includes payment for them to play for the NWSL, that issue is not directly what is involved and I believe that a fair settlement would change the subsidy part of the contract. Again, the MLS and the NWSL are not at all directly involved in the dispute and the salaries they pay have no part in the suit.
I'd determine my own club ball schedule, too, if I had a notion that there might not be a market for real club football and I couldn't be arsed to do the hard work of building one. Barnstorming in non-WWC non-WGold Cup years has to be a lot more fun anyways. They're not trying to help fabricate even a semblance of a club culture to ensure that whatever they earn comes from the proper source. No one as in the litigants, or no one as in the court of public opinion? The assertion has been made in this very forum that Carli Lloyd (I think that's who it was) should be paid what Leo Messi gets paid.
Which, it should be noted, is far less than a called up USMNT or USWNT player. That's not even the most confounding "somewhat complex" piece. The $100k for 16-25 players plus benefits, etc. is substantially more of an issue.
"The Football Association" is the name of the body which governs English Football. Now that this is our of the way, does anyone have numbers to compare how much other governing bodies pay their players. The discussion has been more about equal, but I never bothered to question of ussf over pays its players.
Reportedly, according to some research by Beau Dure, the US players are wildly overpaid in comparison to players attached to the FA.
https://www.totalsportek.com/money/footballers-salaries-with-national-teams/ This article touches on it and from what I understand English pay for friendlies and qualifiers is not out of line with many top nations.