News: St. Louis gets expansion nod

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  1. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
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    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  2. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Canton,NY
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bout damn time.
     
  3. ElNaranja

    ElNaranja Member+

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Jul 16, 2017
    San Antonio is still quietly grumbling in the corner.

    But I am glad to have St Lo join the club.
     
  4. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
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    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Happy for St. Louis but f*** me Garber deserves a royal beating for stringing Sacramento along. We've officially reached the "cruel and unusual" stage.
     
  5. PTFC in KCMO

    PTFC in KCMO Member+

    Aug 12, 2012
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Good. Kansas City finally has someone to hate.
     
  6. firefan2001

    firefan2001 Member+

    Dec 27, 2000
    Oswego, Illinois
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Taylor Twellman has their first coach or GM or President or TD or ALL etc.....;)
     
  7. TheJoeGreene

    TheJoeGreene Member+

    Aug 19, 2012
    The Lubbock Texas
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    #7 TheJoeGreene, Aug 14, 2019
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    Meh. Barely a top 20 MSA, stagnant population growth.
     
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  8. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    It's not his fault they haven't gotten their shit together.
     
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  9. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Yeah, but Saint Louis doesn't really care about Kansas City. It cares about Chicago.
     
  10. cleazer

    cleazer Member+

    May 6, 2003
    Toledo, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There have been a number of "one-way" rivalries throughout MLS history.

    For example, Crew fans really hated DC with a passion for a long, long time, but I don't think we were even on the radar for them.
     
  11. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    I remember it being a surprise to many of us reading posts that that was a thing years ago. I thought it was a joke. It's still not a rivalry to DC nor is there reason for DC to believe it is (fans or players).
     
  12. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Don't say "Don Denkinger" while you're in St. Louis or you might learn different.
     
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  13. KCbus

    KCbus Moderator
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    United States
    Nov 26, 2000
    Reynoldsburg, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not surprised.

    Our hatred of DC stems back to the earliest days of the league, when they were the one hurdle Columbus couldn't get over.

    To THEM, we were just another team whose ass they kicked, because they were that good.
     
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  14. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hmmm...Sounds a lot like Philadelphia and DCU & RBNY.....

    Oh and Orlando for that matter with NYCFC and Atlanta.
     
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  15. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wish we had a rivalry...
     
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  16. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    I mean a lot of those SOBs were in the stands at RFK. Many of the current SOBs are just SOBs, but I still struggle to think of them as anything other than a little brother or something.
     
  17. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Green Bay will get a MLS team any day now. :)
     
  18. JDogindy

    JDogindy Member

    Nov 20, 2014
    Club:
    Indy Eleven
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hey, if they blow up that warehouse clogging up downtown and build the soccer venue there, nobody will complain.
     
  19. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Less than a third of the non-senile population of Saint Louis as an adult memory of the 1985 World Series.

    Trust me, I'm a Missourian. They've gotten over it.
     
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  20. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Trust me, I'm a Cardinals fan, and I haven't. :)
     
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  21. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    You don't live in Saint Louis.
     
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  22. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Not anymore. Does senility arrive earlier in the Midwest?
     
  23. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    No, but generally people don't really lock on stuff until they're at least 12-15 years-old, though BigSoccer style sports fans tend to be younger (I fit that profile).

    If you were 12 in 1985, you'd be 46 today.

    39% of the U.S. population was 45+ in the 2010 Census.

    1 in 7 people move every year in the U.S., though most moves are in the same MSA.

    Though over 34 years there has been a lot of 1985 Saint Louisans that have moved away and been replaced by others. Yourself possibly

    And, shocking to most rabid sports fans, there's also a sizeable set of the population that doesn't really care about sports in general, much less the Cardinals specifically.

    Fact is, while people like you and I remember it clearly, even many of those that do the same have stopped caring.

    How many of the original Casbah members still attend or follow the Earthquakes? I know a lot of original MLS supporter group members and leaders, and many pre-MLS Sam's Army folks. Many of them are still going strong today, but they're the exception. Many others have disappeared as their lives and focus have changed.

    34 years is a long time in sports.

    I'm sure you'll find a fair amount of lip service to the Denkinger thing, but I also suspect most people don't really care. The Cubs/Cardinals and Blues/Blackhawks are ongoing rivalries and the Rams/Bears is still relatively recent enough. The Chiefs and Rams rarely played anything meaningful and the while the annual Royals/Cardinals series is nice enough, it isn't really a rivalry.
     
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  24. btharner

    btharner Member

    Jan 22, 2007
    Selinsgrove, Pa.
    But those battles between the Blues and the Scouts in the mid 70s were downright epic.
     
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  25. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Did the Scouts actually win any games?
     
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