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Discussion in 'Real Madrid' started by Phoenix Rising, Sep 3, 2015.

  1. robnycus

    robnycus Member+

    Jun 28, 2010
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    New York Cosmos
    Was Guti ever a leader on the pitch? i don’t recall..I dont think he ever was

    Not sure what attributes would make him a good candidate to coach the first team.
     
  2. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Many great coaches weren't even average players.
     
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  3. robnycus

    robnycus Member+

    Jun 28, 2010
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    So no qualities then other than having been a servant of the club for many years..
     
  4. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    What does being a leader on the pitch have to do with managing personality and installing a successful system?
     
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  5. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    You have to be from a different planet in terms of bizarre to think that Guti hasn't seen all the ups and down of football enough to be competent in recognizing and resolving situations.

    At least he's not somebody that joined us as a meal ticket and we have to call a legend now.
     
  6. robnycus

    robnycus Member+

    Jun 28, 2010
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    New York Cosmos
    #2606 robnycus, Aug 4, 2019
    Last edited: Aug 4, 2019
    I look for leadership skills as the most important value to lead and impose a given system into our first team players.
    This is why I asked if he had any and apparently he has none based on your answer.
     
  7. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    ...or you don't know what you're talking about and have made a strong stance just to be argumentative per usual.
     
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  8. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Zidane wasn't the leader on any team he ever played in other than the national team. A great player and an example, but the leaders were others.

    Not at Juve, not in Madrid. Salut.
     
  9. robnycus

    robnycus Member+

    Jun 28, 2010
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    #2609 robnycus, Aug 5, 2019
    Last edited: Aug 5, 2019
    Didn’t Zidane come out of National team retirement just to lead France to the world cup final in 2006? If I recall correctly he was the captain of that team and they did pretty good actually..
    Was Guti ever a captain in anything ?
     
  10. janos audron

    janos audron Member+

    Apr 12, 2010
    Clearly not being a captain in his playing days disqualifies him from coaching job!
     
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  11. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Does that change what I said?

    You could argue that the best coaches had less potential as leaders while they were playing. Sometimes it's better to shut up and listen, which is what many great players did while they played.

    Ramos is an idol and a historic leader. Do you give him a lot of chances as a coach after his active career?
     
  12. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Even more when the coach we bring as an example wasn't a leader at his club career either. Being double wrong equals out the wrongs.
     
  13. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
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  14. Anon.

    Anon. Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
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  15. meringues

    meringues Member+

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    Aug 8, 2008
    Wisconsin
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    :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
     
  16. RMrules

    RMrules Member+

    Real Madrid
    Spain
    Aug 12, 2019
    Carvajal is suspended for the game agains Celta.....Odriozola most likely to start,in my opinion Odriozola is another Teo just not good enough.
     
  17. janos audron

    janos audron Member+

    Apr 12, 2010
    At this point it does not matter because both of them are playing like donkeys.
     
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  18. AppleBob86

    AppleBob86 Member+

    Real Madrid
    Jan 11, 2018
    Anyone in the UK, ITV have struck a deal with La Liga to show matches.
     
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  19. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    Nat'l Team:
    --other--


     
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  20. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Man the UK sure hates Spanish football it seems.

    Apparently DAZN will not launch in the UK because the market was considered ultracompetitive which drives prices up.
     
  21. AppleBob86

    AppleBob86 Member+

    Real Madrid
    Jan 11, 2018
    The UK live Spanish football. It’s why it’s been a mainstay on Sky for last 15/20 years.

    It’s just the fact that companies like SkY and Virgin are becoming more and more greedy they want for peanuts while putting more money on the consumers.

    I cancelled virgin and got IPTV. Either way I’m sorted but I feel for those who just can’t afford the sports packages.
     
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  22. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Facebook streams La Liga in India. So those in UK can watch RM matches without lagging streams if they use VPN and open La Liga page on Facebook with Indian ip.
     
  23. AppleBob86

    AppleBob86 Member+

    Real Madrid
    Jan 11, 2018
    Our fantastic medical department cleared Brahim to train with the group from his pre season injury.

    He’s now injured again with another muscle injury.

    He’s out 4-5 weeks.

    Absolute props to our fantastic medical team and physios. Top notch.
     
  24. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    So a guy who has never had an significant injury history comes here and within 6 months has suffered reoccurring injuries.

    Yet a few here will have you believe it is Zidane and his fitness trainer at fault. Definitely not our pathetic medical staff.

    So obvious we do little to nothing for recovery after sessions. So obvious we rush players back to avoid backlash, instead of taking time.
     
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  25. Real__Madrid

    Real__Madrid Member+

    Aug 29, 2014
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    Real Madrid
    If Vallejo stays relatively injury free at Wolves we definitely know where the problem is
     
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