Lucho is human like the rest of us, we all process stuff differently. Like Pr0ner said, dude clearly celebrated With his teammates. Half the people dogging him out would probably handle the situation similar to him if they were in his shoes.
One can simultaneously laud those willing to act in service to the country while decrying the actions of one who seeks only to enrich himself and his fellows who sits in the highest seat of the land. The actions aren't mutually exclusive in this regard, and to be silent in the face of injustice is to be complicit. Did I boo? No, but 1-I'm fine with those who did, and 2-kinda wish I had thought to do so. Of course, like officers, my oath is to the Constitution, so I'm given a little more leeway in discrediting the buffoon. The dude's basically the ref Noh of the executive branch.
Back in my AR days we were taught to run back up the line after goals to signal the ref that all was well. Standing still meant come on over for a talk. In those days it would have been a possible foul, usually an offensive hand ball, that the ref had missed. We would have raised the flag for offside.
I have no issues with deriding the buffoon but not in that context. When they take that oath the oath deserves the respect. Pick another moment to deride the buffoon.
What context - they were being used as props (or as unpaid advertisements whichever is worse) to sell their boss's wares at an entertainment event. They were basically cans of red bull at a stadium in new jersey. Pick whatever moment you want - or don't, your choice. (the greater your, not necessarily any "you" in particular I am lazy and replied to this post because it was on this page)
Nah...Sure, the oath deserves respect, but since I'm sure you and I agree that the buffoon referenced certainly doesn't respect the oath he took, signaling displeasure at that portion of the oath while under this administration is a perfectly reasonable form of protest. These are not normal times, however much we wish they were. Of course, maybe I'm not the guy to have this argument with. I told my directors that if they put his command chain photos where I could reach them, they would be...altered. After the second such incident, they finally stopped doing that, and even better made sure it was behind a bureau. I win.
This is spot on. When people were riding Barack Obama, primarily over the healthcare act, the response was to respect the office, if not the man. And in the moment when those people chose to commit themselves to service to the country, it was inappropriate. There are a great many of us who sleep under the veil of security provided by people them. They chose to server for whatever reason, but in the moment when they're be sworn in, they deserved our respect. Anything less was petty like the many of the issues the buffoon chooses to go after. He's embarrassing, their service is not. I can't remember the last time we didn't have military appreciation night and when there weren't a group of recruits being sworn in. The venue and time is as appropriate as any. The response was not.
I agree with the respect piece, but have never understood why honoring the military has been linked to sporting events. It's not the place I would do so. Not starting an argument, just joining the conversation.
Stepping forward onto riskier ground, why do we insist on playing the National Anthem before each match - and having fans "disrespect" it by shouting "O" at the (in)appropriate moment?
As "a veteran", I would just like to say that at no time does a military member, new or retired, automatically deserve an extra level of respect just because they have a uniform (if they did something specifically interesting in it, maybe), especially a level that prohibits anyone from exercising their right to protest in whatever small way they can Protest is just as, possibly more, American than serving in the military, and ... my USAF training inspires me to say at this point ... especially the Coast Guard but that's just my informed opinion - you are entitled to yours, even if it's wrong because it disagrees with mine Don't get me started on the stupid flag and anthem at sporting events..... On to more appropriate discussions, On the way back to the car, people seemed to really enjoy my la la la la la la la la la la la la la la la L.A. Sucks.Ass. chant more than usual
Agree. Multi-generational and multi branch (including AF, Navy, Army). If MLS wants to have its military nights it shouldn’t go after the banners in the crowds. But it should go after the Nazis and White Supremacists because we fought wars against that ideology and also Fcuk Nazis. James
Because they're Orioles fans who think they're cute by doing it at United (and Caps) games. At least that practice has stopped at Nationals Park unless the Orioles are in town.
When the Nats give me back the seats they stole from me when they moved into RFK I'll think about not shouting "O" anymore.