NASL Files Federal Antitrust Lawsuit Against US Soccer

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  1. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    #3751 newtex, Aug 6, 2019
    Last edited: Aug 6, 2019
    2019 NPSL Members Cup (formerly Founders Cup)
    Weeks 1-3
    Home team first, times are ET.
    Streams? Maybe.

    Saturday, August 10
    Milwaukee Torrent v. Napa Valley 1839 8:00 pm
    Chattanooga FC v. New York Cosmos 8:30 pm

    Saturday, August 17
    New York Cosmos v. Milwaukee Torrent 7:00 pm
    Detroit City v. Chattanooga FC 7:30 pm

    Saturday, August 24
    Napa Valley 1839 v. Detroit City 10:00 pm
    Chattanooga FC v. Michigan Stars 8:30 pm

    The six teams will play 10 regular season games this fall. The Members Cup season ends on October 26. There will be some sort of playoffs.
     
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  2. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Why are they playing two games a week when they have six teams?
     
  3. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Wait, the Michigan Stars are part of this!? OH man....

    I guess the indoor facility the Bucks played at needed a new tenant.
     
  4. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    That's a good question. To stretch out the season? Stadium availability? The voice in their heads says so?

    They do have a few weeks with 3 games later in the year but mostly only two on each weekend.
     
  5. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    The NPSL schedule says that they will be playing at "ULTIMATE SOCCER ARENAS - OUTDOOR." I thought that their only outdoor field was an American football field but they may have added another one.
     
  6. Egbert Sousé

    Egbert Sousé Member

    NYCFC
    May 25, 2013
    nyc
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's not very authentic at all....
     
  7. soccermilitant

    soccermilitant Member+

    Jan 14, 2009
    St.paul
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    didn't they want the "magic" of pro/rel?
     
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  8. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    First results:

    2019 NPSL Members Cup
    (formerly Founders Cup)
    Weeks 1-3
    Home team first, times are ET.
    Streams and recaps via MyCujoo at https://www.npsl.com/calendar/2019-npsl-members-cup/

    Saturday, August 10
    Milwaukee Torrent 2-0 Napa Valley 1839
    Chattanooga FC 0-1 New York Cosmos

    Saturday, August 17
    New York Cosmos v. Milwaukee Torrent 7:00 pm
    Detroit City v. Chattanooga FC 7:30 pm

    Saturday, August 24
    Napa Valley 1839 v. Detroit City 10:00 pm
    Chattanooga FC v. Michigan Stars 8:30 pm
     
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  9. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Chattanooga drew an announced 3,500, which is not out of line from their normal crowd.

    Have not seen an official number for Milwaukee, but it has been described as a "great crowd" and a "big crowd" and looked like this:

    20190811_073651.jpg
     
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  10. Darkwing McQuack

    Darkwing McQuack BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 11, 2011
    Morrisville, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  11. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    That simplifies things for the Cosmos greatly.

    They can now add all they championships they want to the storied history of the club(TM) without all the messiness of having to play and win games.
     
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  12. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    The Cosmos have now killed three leagues. That's got to be some kind of a record, right?
     
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  13. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  14. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    They kinda thought of themselves as uniquely special compared to everyone else already, soooo... Perfect!
     
  15. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    DCFC and CFC instantly become the best-run clubs in the NISA.
     
  16. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Going to be fun to see how this affects the balance sheets of both.
     
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  17. Bill Archer

    Bill Archer BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 19, 2002
    Washington, NC
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #3767 Bill Archer, Aug 15, 2019
    Last edited: Aug 15, 2019
    And they hook you right offthe bat:

    "Coming off of a successful Board of Governors meeting....."

    I'm trying to envision what an UNsuccessful Board of Governors meeting might look like; fistfights over the shrimp at the buffet table? Rocco Commiso making armpit fart noises during the tournament presentation? Don Garber and Mark Abbott bursting into the room, laughing hysterically and throwing water balloons?
     
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  18. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    DCFC made a profit on a $1M budget a couple years ago only because they:

    • Didn't have to pay players
    • Had an extended (home) playoff run
    • Left the state of Michigan twice all season
    Those conditions will not be replicated in a higher/smaller league.

    Do they have more financial resources now? (They should, it's a PLS thing.) Okay.
    Will they (in theory) have more home games/opportunities to generate revenue? Probably.
    Could they charge more for everything now and therefore generate more revenue? You'd think. (This is where the Beer & Scarf brigade kvetches about the good old days when things were cheaper, as if the plucky little club they found was always going to stay little and plucky.)
    Are their expenses also going to go up? Certainly.

    Will revenue get close enough to expenses to make it "work?" Maybe. But the woods are littered with the bones of clubs that had healthy-looking attendance figures, because it's expensive to do this.

    I think these two clubs have done it smartly, building gradually. Whether they are intoxicated by their own success and think they got this, no problem, I can't know.

    But the P&L for them both HAS to be different. Likely (but not guaranteed) to be worse, maybe better but definitely different.
     
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  19. soccermilitant

    soccermilitant Member+

    Jan 14, 2009
    St.paul
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    only because they don't have the "magic" of pro/rel.
     
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  20. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    On one hand, they've looked like one of the great business success stories in lower level soccer and seem like they type of people with the creativity and smarts to get this done.

    On the other hand, they seriously tried to join the NASL as it was barreling toward a cliff only two years ago.
     
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  21. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wonder if we will ever know the real story of what felt like a Hail Mary that would have made Drew Pearson proud.

    Hard to fault the moves they have *actually* made to this point. And if they are truly ready for the pro level (they've outgrown the NPSL despite, you know, never actually WINNING the NPSL), this is their current Best Realistic Chance.
     
  22. Stuart95

    Stuart95 Member+

    Mar 11, 2012
    NoVA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  23. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So NISA will have its own competition this fall, but they won't know if they've been granted divisional status until February, which seems a bit late.
     
  24. BalanceUT

    BalanceUT RSL and THFC!

    Oct 8, 2006
    Appalachia
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Narcissism is amazing to watch, from a distance.
     
  25. Beau Dure

    Beau Dure Member+

    May 31, 2000
    Vienna, VA
    A WPS meeting.
     
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