In with the new - Summer 2019 transfer thread

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by chjoak, Feb 1, 2019.

  1. Rewinder

    Rewinder Member+

    Jun 24, 2004
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I'd bet on Mustafi staying. If we sell Chambers, I could see us bring Smalling in as a replacement, but I feel its more likely that we see no further first team additions or departures after Kos leaves (with the exception of Elneny going some time before the end of August).
     
  2. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    Forest are apparently interested in Jenkinson.

    With respect to Smalling: Bailly is out injured for four months, so even though they added Maguire, United aren't that deep at CB. They'd be left with Jones, Lidelof, and Rojo to partner Maguire. Jones has trouble staying healthy and they are looking to move Rojo, so I seriously doubt Smalling would be available at any price.
     
  3. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Of course what this really means is we spent the last 3 months failing to sign a CB and now that is coming home to roost.

     
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  4. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    There is no longer any market for Utd & Arsenal brand offcasts now that smaller clubs have a lot of money and are more sophisticated.

    Some of them will be ditched in the last day firesale for sure.

    But with trash like Mozzer or Row Joe it probably makes more financial sense to keep them as depth due to the huge churn cost of signing someone to replace them who might not be better.
     
  5. DaPrince84

    DaPrince84 Member+

    Aug 22, 2001
    MD
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    Arsenal FC
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  6. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    The classic mispronunciation of Rojo

    He's a very similar example of a trash player on a contract which makes offloading him very difficult.

    Back in the SAF days there would have been an ex-utd manager willing to do him a solid by taking him.
     
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  7. Super Llama

    Super Llama Member+

    May 21, 2006
    Seattle
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    It also means our strategy was contingent on Koscielny being THE starter at CB which is just...so much facepalm
     
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  8. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Yes. We really were going to run with Sokratis & Kos and hope for holding to come good
     
  9. MilesW

    MilesW Member+

    Aug 26, 2010
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It makes sense that teams in the pl would focus on bringing guys in and then focus on sending guys out abroad after the window closes.
     
  10. Rewinder

    Rewinder Member+

    Jun 24, 2004
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Everything is starting to kick off as we approach the final 48 hours of the window.

    Coutinho on loan is back on according to fairly reliable L'equipe journalist.
    Leipzig want Smith-Rowe as part of any deal for Upamecano.
    Kos is gone for €5m
     
  11. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    The thing about the strong EPL cash flows is clubs can afford to hold out on the sales instead of churning cash like in the past where a lot of deals were debt financed. So a lot of times you shifted your dead weight early, to free up cash flow for the buying.

    So I agree, we will see players sold in the end of window fire sales if deals can be found, or even retained if necessary. But clubs can manage the ins and outs for weeks or months if they need to.
     
  12. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Cuntinho is silly. Why do we need him when we have Ozil, purchased a winger, and have the Real hotshot CM on loan?
     
  13. Rewinder

    Rewinder Member+

    Jun 24, 2004
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    It would be the stupidest thing we have done in a while. We won't even be able to fit Ozil in half of the time, so why do we need to Coutinho? Even if there was no loan fee at all, I wouldn't take him.

    Assuming we have an injury crisis in the attack, we have a lot of promising youngsters for those positions. Add in the heft loan fee and wage, and you have to wonder why we wouldn't just allocate those funds to get Tierney and Upamecano over the line instead.
     
  14. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
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    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We don't. Tim Stillman is speculating on Twitter that this may be the result of doing business with Kia Joorabchian, ie, you have to take his shit too if you want access to his gems.
     
  15. leppercut

    leppercut Member+

    Oct 10, 2006
    SLC and Anchorage
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Let's do it
     
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  16. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Saw somewhere that there was no truth to the Coutinho links.
     
  17. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    If we can get Upamecano over the line, this will be our most impactful window in ages (and probably riskiest).
     
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  18. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
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    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    Julien Lauren, French journo in the UK, is saying it's BS, fwiw.
     
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  19. mebeSajid

    mebeSajid Member+

    Feb 16, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Never made much sense, but then again neither did Denis Suarez.

    If we loaned Coutinho that means someone in Barcelona has blackmail material on Sanllehi.
     
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  20. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
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    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Why the frak are we still discussing Coutinho?
     
  21. AEAAFC96

    AEAAFC96 Member+

    Mar 27, 2006
    NYC
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Mustafi wants to say and "prove himself"; on the evidence of that, he should just shut up and leave.
     
  22. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
    United States
    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's what I've assumed all along
     
  23. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    Yeah - that definitely is possible with the Raul approach

    Remember Bebe? Signed as a way to bung cash to Mendes
     
  24. Super Llama

    Super Llama Member+

    May 21, 2006
    Seattle
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Have we done business with Joorabchian as of yet?
     
  25. yossarian

    yossarian Moderator
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    Jun 16, 1999
    Big City Blinking
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There were some rumors (don't know how solid) that he had some influence in the Pepe deal despite not being Pepe's agent.
     

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