The "Messi: the best player in the world. Is it even up for discussion?" thread

Discussion in 'Barcelona' started by jfcule, Mar 22, 2012.

  1. evil_allan

    evil_allan Member+

    May 3, 2004
    Turtle Island
  2. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    Pretty good !!

    Disagree with Lampard appearing so high .. same with Rooney who’s overrated imho.
    Neymar should be higher
     
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  3. evil_allan

    evil_allan Member+

    May 3, 2004
    Turtle Island
    yea, also i disagree with Pique's placement.

    neymar should be higher, but he can only blame himself for ruining his own career.
     
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  4. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
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    Overrated doesn't mean the player isn't higher than good / great. Obviously Pele is a legend ... just that many people are saying he isn't GOAT anymore so thus, overrated.

    Zidane for me is overrated. I'd probably put Ronaldinho and Puyol also a notch down.
     
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  5. afar

    afar Member+

    Apr 26, 2007
    Agree — Zidane is very overrated.

    Dinho has to be below R9, whom I personally rate very highly.

    Any Top-5 All-time list would most probably include Pele, Maradona, and Messi — whatever order you prefer.
     
  6. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    Maybe Puyol is a tad high but he was a warrior and is a Barca legend..

    We may miss him MORE than we miss Iniesta or Xavi ..
     
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  7. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    We are discussing the best player in the world ... so Cronaldo has to get a mention even though I detest him...all that said I was defending Messi so I’ve no idea why you chose to be so insulting .. very childish
     
  8. Ozora

    Ozora Member+

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    Aug 5, 2014
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    c.ronaldo is the most overrated player of all time,he is a legend though:confused:
     
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  9. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    Yeah I’d agree
     
  10. afar

    afar Member+

    Apr 26, 2007


    Really nice video about Messi’s beginnings.
     
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  11. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Huge bias towards 21st century players. But okay, lets assume that is the scope ...

    The bottom line is a mess.

    - You have players that "made-it" but then lost that drive and extra effort that got them to that level in the first place (Ozil, Bale). But others in the same group that work really hard and always trying to get better (Alexis, Griezmann).

    Complete opposites actually. Can't put those types in the same group.
     
  12. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
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    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
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    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
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    Brazil
    Messi gets 3 month suspension for accusing CONMEBOL ... 3 months which only include friendly games...games which CONMEBOL don't even organize ... :ROFLMAO:

    Persecuted my ass ... come at me @TitoTata
     
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  13. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Yeah, very good chance Messi would've sat out those 3 months anyway (just like he did last Sept - November). In any case, works-out brilliantly for Barca. He'll get a break in each of the first 3 months of the new season. And will only play (at most) 1 out of the 2 qualifying matches in March. Also skipping the U.S. tour this week.
     
  14. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Exactly. It's like a present for him and for Barca. This is one of the biggest BS suspensions I've ever seen. Not that I care that much. Just find it funny @TitoTata was claiming persecution ... :rolleyes:
     
  15. unclesox

    unclesox BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 8, 2003
    209, California
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    FC Barcelona
    #5090 unclesox, Aug 5, 2019
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    Probably sacrilege to say here but it really is just a slap on the wrist given the games he’ll be missing.
    Not that I’m complaining.
     
  16. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

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    Jakarta
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    Messi's toe probably hurt after hitting a staircase a little bit so he'd miss the US tour.

    As for Messi suspension, its basically more of an adventage for him. Missing meaningless games.
     
  17. unclesox

    unclesox BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 8, 2003
    209, California
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    1167128436852158464 is not a valid tweet id
     
  18. Rattlehead

    Rattlehead Member+

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    .... yet, none of Barca defenders ever made it to top 5 everytime we won CL haha
     
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  19. celito

    celito Moderator
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    Palmeiras
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    Feb 28, 2005
    USA
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    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
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    Brazil
    I was watching his goals this past season and he scored some truly incredible goals. But it has become casual for him. If it doesn't come with a CL trophy at the end of the year, the top individual prize won't follow. I'd imagine he won't win BdOr either.
     
  20. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
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    Apr 2, 2002
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    his benchmark is crazy high
     
  21. Ozora

    Ozora Member+

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    Aug 5, 2014
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    agree with that. i think people just get used to messi. they just want messi win everything. also barcelona currently doesnt promote messi much anymore.
     
  22. Bada Bing

    Bada Bing Member+

    Jul 13, 2012
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    Another accolade stolen, nothing new under the sun. They really have no shame.
     
  23. Ozora

    Ozora Member+

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    Aug 5, 2014
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    im sure those people dont watch football.
    also,f*** media. ridiculous bullshit
     
  24. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
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    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    did prime Busquets get this much love?
     
  25. evil_allan

    evil_allan Member+

    May 3, 2004
    Turtle Island
    Busi never got the credit he deserved following that peek-a-boo moment vs Mou's Inter
     
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