2019 Season - Prediction Contest

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  1. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #401 cpthomas, Jul 30, 2019
    Last edited: Jul 30, 2019
    I took it as a quite entertaining joke, which is most helpful these days.

    Regarding CoachJon's observations, I think a couple of things might be contributing to the lower "success" rate this year. One is the number of absences of top players related to the World Cup and the build up to it, which could continue with the victory tour. Another is the more radical than expected improvement of Washington and the tanking of Orlando, which have taken a while to adjust to. Another may be the simple operation of chance.

    It is clear, though, that the robot's poorer performance this year than last means that teams' performances have not been as consistent this year than last year, with their performance over the previous 108 regular season games.

    So the bottom line may be that it's not the predictors being defective, it's rather the game results being harder to predict, whatever the reasons.
     
  2. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    In fact, I think the different pace is mostly a sign of a more unpredictable league this year, compared to the previous one, where basically everything was going according to the most likely outcomes. One of the reason was of course the WWC, with players from all teams going away and coming back (not only USWNT players: NWSL was by far the league with most internationals at the WWC; they were counted literally in dozens). But any other factor could be involved: it's a fact that there were much more unexpected scores this seasons than in the last one, and the ups and downs in the rankings reflect that, with a completly different shape of the top 4 right now compared to the beginning of the season.

    I guess @cpthomas's performance, being data-based and just statistical, is a very good indicator: if he's a full one point and a half behind his score from last season, this can only mean that this season's matches are less predictable (on a statistical base, by definition of how the robot operates) than last seson's ones. Since humans too take the past data into consideration (despite not being as much "married" with them as the robot), it's only normal that human performances are also lower: the results, in general, are odder that in 2018, and the robot's score is here to show that.
     
  3. 59Amerinorsk

    59Amerinorsk Member

    Chicago Red Stars
    Norway
    Mar 31, 2017
    NC 2 WAS 1
    HOU 2 TAC/SEA 1
    CRS 2 UT 1
    POR 2 NJNY 1
     
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  4. Smallchief

    Smallchief Member+

    Oct 27, 2012
    Club:
    --other--
    NC 2 WAS 1
    HOU 1 TAC/SEA 1
    CRS 2 UT 1
    POR 3 NJNY 1
     
  5. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    NC 2 WAS 1
    HOU 0 SEA 0
    CHI 3 UTA 1
    POR 1 NJ 0
     
  6. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is the Dash 0 v Reign 0 prediction the first 0-0 prediction we've had this year?
     
  7. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Not sure, but it could very well be. On the other hand, how many 0-0s were there in NWSL this season? :coffee:
     
  8. Tracer

    Tracer Member

    Apr 22, 2016
    New York
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I have a final 0-0 score for:
    1. 5/4 NC vs Sky Blue
    2. 5/4 WAS vs Reign
    3. 6/21 Por vs Utah
    4. 6/22 WAS vs Hou
     
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  9. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanks for doing the count. So since there have been 62 games so far this season, blissett may have about a 4/62 chance of getting 3 points -- roughly about 1/15. blissett, if you're on target with this one, you'll put the robot to shame.
     
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  10. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Well, now I get the feeling that it will end 5-3 or something! :laugh:
     
  11. lunatica

    lunatica Member+

    Nov 20, 2013
    NC 2 WAS 1
    HOU 1 SEA 1
    CHI 0 UTA 1
    POR 2 NJ 0
     
  12. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Nice surprise result: I like how you played it.
     
  13. holden

    holden Member+

    Dundee FC, Yeovil Town LFC, Girondins de Bordeaux
    Oct 20, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Dundee FC
    NCC 3 - 2 WAS
    HOU 1 - 0 RFC
    CHI 2 - 1 UTA
    POR 5 - 0 SBFC (that's not a typo)
     
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  14. cpthomas

    cpthomas BigSoccer Supporter

    Portland Thorns
    United States
    Jan 10, 2008
    Portland, Oregon
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wow. In the last 108 games, however, there have been three 5-0 games. North Carolina won two of them, against Orlando and Houston. Portland won one of them, against Houston. It's possible, but predicting 5-0? As I wrote, Wow.:thumbsup:
     
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  15. Tapas&Fútbol

    Tapas&Fútbol Member

    Real Betis
    Spain
    Apr 11, 2019
    Seville (Spain)
    Week 16
    Courage 2-0 Spirit
    Dash 1-2 Reign
    Red Stars 2-2 Royals
    Thorns 3-1 Sky Blue
     
  16. FawcettFan14

    FawcettFan14 Member+

    Mar 19, 2004
    Colorado
    I'm sitting out of the rest of the prediction contest this season. I forgot about NWSL games during the World Cup, and life's busyness caused me to miss some midweek game predictions too. As a result, I've fallen too far behind to make it fun anymore.

    Feel free to remove me from the standings, or keep me to ensure that nobody else has to finish in last place! :ROFLMAO:
     
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  17. holden

    holden Member+

    Dundee FC, Yeovil Town LFC, Girondins de Bordeaux
    Oct 20, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Dundee FC
    Portland just beat Houston 5-0, and I can't see them doing any worse against SBFC. I nearly went 6-0... ;)
     
  18. BlueCrimson

    BlueCrimson Member+

    North Carolina Courage
    United States
    Nov 21, 2012
    Cincinnati, Ohio
    Club:
    Sydney FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You would think so, but SkyBlue has always played the Weeds pretty close. Even last year. The Weeds did win 2 of the 3 matches, but they weren't dominating wins.

    North Carolina 2, Washington 0
    Houston 1, Reign 1
    Chicago 2, Utah 0
    Weeds 1, SkyBlue 1
     
  19. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    You're assuming that POR drubbing HOU that badly is a true sign of strength (for both teams) and not noise; yes, POR is better than HOU, but five goals better? Not on a normal day.
     
  20. holden

    holden Member+

    Dundee FC, Yeovil Town LFC, Girondins de Bordeaux
    Oct 20, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Dundee FC
    It was a joke, hence the winking face.
     
  21. SiberianThunderT

    Sep 21, 2008
    DC
    Club:
    Saint Louis Athletica
    Nat'l Team:
    Spain
    and yet you stick by the 5-0?
     
  22. CoachJon

    CoachJon Member+

    Feb 1, 2006
    Rochester, NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Complaint: When I open the Injury Report on the NWSLsoccer.com web site, it gives me the July 19 Report. I found the info for this weekend on Equalizersoccer.com. Am I looking at the wrong place on NWSLsoccer.com?

    Predictions
    8/2 North Carolina 2 v Washington 1
    I gave WAS a goal because I root for Ash Hatch and I like Jordan Dibiasi, Matthews, and Logarzo.​
    8/2 Houston 1 v SeaTac 1
    Only because HOU defense is suspect. I had hoped Sophie Schmidt would plug the holes, but.........​
    8/3 Chicago 3 v Utah 0
    CHI at home with Kerr.​
    8/3 Thorns 4 v NJNY 0
    SkyBlue has historically played POR tough in POR, but not this year not this weekend​
     
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  23. holden

    holden Member+

    Dundee FC, Yeovil Town LFC, Girondins de Bordeaux
    Oct 20, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Dundee FC
    Want to gain ground in the prediction contest? You're not gonna do that being conservative picking the similar scores as everyone else. You gotta throw out a unique result or two and hope it works out.
     
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  24. McSkillz

    McSkillz Member+

    ANGEL CITY FC, UCLA BRUINS
    United States
    Nov 22, 2014
    Los Angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oops, almost forgot about the games today. Here my predictions:

    NCC 2 - 1 WAS
    HOU 1 - 2 RFC
    CHI 2 - 2 UTA
    POR 4 - 0 SBFC
     
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  25. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Well, Casey Murphy was well set for a 0-0 score, but Jane Campbell wasn't. :coffee:

    Anyway, I managed to make one point out of this game, that's the same as the robot. :giggle:
     

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