Who else is getting turned OFF by the overt politicizing from this USWNT??

Discussion in 'USA Women: News and Analysis' started by WorldCupfanUSA, Jul 13, 2019.

  1. Caulfield

    Caulfield Member

    May 31, 2004
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Weirdo or not, he pulls the 700 Club piece, a goalkeeper on the team(that better?) decides to tweet about Hinkle, and there you have it. Confirmation as to why Hinkle wasn’t on the team. Join the club or hit the road. Being a great player is only part of what it takes to be on this current USWNT. Hell, if Harris had mentioned one thing about Hinkle’s actual ability, we’d be having a different conversation.
     
  2. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
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    It's not just a random detail, as you're trying to sell it. By showing that you don't even know who's the starting GK in UNSWNT, you give it away that you actually don't give a damn about real soccer that's played on the pitch or about the US National Team: you just came here looking for a platform to spout your political views. Well, there are many places to do this, but if you want to do it here, at the very least get informed about what you're talking about.

    For records, not only Ashlyn Harris wasn't "the starting goalkeeper", but she didn't play a single minute in this World Cup.
     
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  3. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    It was someone lashing out at 3-year-old information. It doesn't prove anything contemporaneous.
     
  4. Caulfield

    Caulfield Member

    May 31, 2004
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yep, you’re right about one thing, I don’t give a damn about the USWNT. The fact I got a player on the same team mixed up bothers me little.
     
  5. Caulfield

    Caulfield Member

    May 31, 2004
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    LOL, of course not.
     
  6. Dfwsoccer01

    Dfwsoccer01 Member

    Jun 23, 2014
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    FC Dallas
    He misspoke. Jesus! Everybody is just waiting to pounce on someone as soon as they can find anything when someone makes a comment that’s not conforming to this boards agenda.

    Are we sure the “members” on this board aren’t some of the players??......
     
  7. puttputtfc

    puttputtfc Member+

    Sep 7, 1999
    This is nothing new.
     
  8. puttputtfc

    puttputtfc Member+

    Sep 7, 1999
    People applaud Harris for going after Hinkle when Hinkle didn't make the tweet. I'm willing to give Caufield a free pass for his mistake.
     
  9. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
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    No, he didn't. He admit it himself:

     
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  10. Caulfield

    Caulfield Member

    May 31, 2004
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nothing like arguing about semantics when there’s a real issue to discuss. LOL, you guys are killing me with this. Feel like I’m talking with my 11 year old.
     
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  11. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    Glad you agree.
     
  12. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    What is "this board's agenda" and how do you see my posts fitting in?
     
  13. zdravstvuyte

    zdravstvuyte Member

    Aston Villa
    United States
    Jul 26, 2018
    Back on tour !!!
    Yoga, lentils and estrogen!
     
  14. Dfwsoccer01

    Dfwsoccer01 Member

    Jun 23, 2014
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    A majority of the agendas I see involve a very low analytical soccer IQ, with a high emphasis on semantics and LGBTQ rights.
     
  15. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    And the second question?
     
  16. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
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    If you notice, I hadn't basically posted anything here and I won't after this last answer. But I am not arguing about semantics at all, and you are offensive with your 11 yo comment.

    What I am arguing about it's that these are women's football boards, where most people have an actual knowledge of women's football (I don't use the term "soccer" since I am European). There are political boards on this very BigSoccer forum, if you want, but if you come to the women's football section, you're expected to have some basic info about the team and the players you're talking about.

    It sounds quite unrespectful for people who post here on a daily basis, and who actually know about this sport, to come here lecturing us about players whose stories and past (or even roles!) you don't know anything about and (for your admission) you don't give a damn about. You're of course free to express your opinions, as everywhere, but maybe this is not the most suited place to do it; and if you want to express them anyway, do it while being aware that you could miss some relevant pieces of info, especially if you don't follow women's football or if you didn't follow the matches at the World Cup, as it would seem by reading your comments.
     
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  17. hotjam2

    hotjam2 Member+

    Nov 23, 2012
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    but you've posted four times allready on this threat, which if you go by name sake, is more about politics than soccer. But after following your posts all these years, you prefer to follow popular threats rather than wahat should be more important ones like your fellow...Italian soccer threat... but sadly facing a slow death, since nobody's posting over there anymore

    but since your an outsider(Italian with a preference for apparently Japanese), you got to understand 'politics 101' in this country, which is...........it's not really about Trump, it's the fact that he's supported nearly 100% by the Republican Party that's the bigger deal. The Republicans might not be the majority in terms of people/voters, but they've made winning elections into a science, thus giving them a huge advantage. For example

    lower chamber/congressional districts, they've been able to whats called 'gerrymandering' they've forced mostly Democrat areas into a few districts. Thus like for an example; in North Carolina, the Reps. won 5 out of 7 districts even though the majority(51-49%) voted Democrat(thus 5 of 7 congressmen are Reps.

    higher chamber(senate) each state only gets two representatives. So Wyoming with a pop. of 575K is on par with California with it's 36 million pop. Unfortunatly this carry's over to our presidential election where 1 electorial = 175k/people in Wyoming, but 600K in Calif make up elect. Thus the Rep. party goes after Wyoming with rural/white conservative vlues with their promises of low taxes & religious intolerence, while forgoes the more progressive/open minded believes of the majority,

    So, lets say on this thread, the open, pragmatic poster & proud Californian, McSkillz, might voice the opinion of the majority of us, but unfortunately, the one Trump loving/gay bashing poster who says he's from middle America has the more political cloud(which of course means electing Trump)
     
  18. Caulfield

    Caulfield Member

    May 31, 2004
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As an ex collegiate player, I’m fairly knowledgeable about soccer. Knowing about soccer and not giving a damn about the USWNT are two different things. I used to watch women’s soccer because I liked the team. Michelle Akers is one of them best damn soccer players, male or female, I’ve ever seen. A complete beast who played with Chronic Fatigue Syndrome(once collapsed on the field), and I can think few players I admire more than her.

    I came here to offer my opinions on why fans may be getting turned off by the over political nature of this current USWNT. If everyone wants to believe that an 11 million viewership drop-off is nothing more than a time zone problem, be my guest.

    Saying F the President, kneeling for the flag, having a player discard the American flag like it was a piece of trash during the post game celebration, a goalkeeper calling a Christian player homophobic and not deserving of a spot on the team, and having your star player turn every press conference in a gripe session over pay is not the way to grow your game. I’m just telling you it’s not. I’m sure there are some that see this as a sort of “fighting the cause” crusade, but it is turning off a lot of people.
     
  19. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    Has a single person said that time zone was the ONLY reason?
     
  20. Caulfield

    Caulfield Member

    May 31, 2004
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Semantics again. It’s been mentioned as one reason, along with quality of opponent, as well as other things. It’s always something other than what it really is with US soccer in general. This is no different.
     
  21. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    Why is it invalid as a reason?

    What special insight do you claim to have that it MUST be primarily the politics?
     
  22. Caulfield

    Caulfield Member

    May 31, 2004
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Same special insight as to why you feel it is not, and the fact I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
     
  23. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    And the answer to the first question?

    P.S. We have actual historical ratings data on tournaments held in different time zones, and while it's not easy to decouple the effects of increased popularity of the game overall, some rational inferences can be made long before we get to petty reasons like being a dick to the President.
     
  24. Caulfield

    Caulfield Member

    May 31, 2004
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #124 Caulfield, Jul 23, 2019
    Last edited: Jul 23, 2019
    LOL. It time zones mattered so much, why was the group stage games up from 2015? Keep in mind, these games were played before the Rapinoe tape was made public.

    Also, all the 2019 games were trending up from 2015 until after the France game. The France game was coincidentally the same time as the Rapinoe tape and Trump tweet. Then it all fell apart. The Semifinal was down 17% from 2015 and we know the drop in the final. There you have it.

    Man, I’ve having fun.
     
  25. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    If correlation meant causation, they wouldn't have named the first.
     

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