The Official Jesse Fioranelli thread

Discussion in 'San Jose Earthquakes' started by Goodsport, Jan 5, 2017.

  1. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
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    That's possibly true. The existing chemistry could be disrupted.
     
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  2. Scott Rohde

    Scott Rohde Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jul 28, 2018
    That's perfectly valid. The Quakes are happy with this roster in that they believe it can achieve some internally defined metrics that they believe will ultimately be good for the business. Although I think with sports the best thing you can do for the business is win games. Give a good coach good players and win games.
     
  3. Scott Rohde

    Scott Rohde Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jul 28, 2018
    Yes, but isn't that always true for every team? A bad signing can hurt any team, but a good signing can help a team. It's Jesse's job to get it right and I believe he can.
     
  4. Scott Rohde

    Scott Rohde Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jul 28, 2018
    OK, tonight's not the night to discuss improving the roster. I'm gonna go enjoy salty tears of galaxy fans.
     
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  5. NedZ

    NedZ Member+

    May 19, 2001
    Los Gatos
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    Ask not, Galaxy, for whom the bell tolls - it tolls for thee !
     
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  6. NedZ

    NedZ Member+

    May 19, 2001
    Los Gatos
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    #2506 NedZ, Jul 13, 2019
    Last edited: Jul 13, 2019
    It turns out not to be a myth after all. :cool:

    Not to mention that Espinoza is apparently a DP in sheep's clothing. If we want to keep him, and he and his home club are willing, he'll need to be paid like one. So, in that sense, we have had a new DP signing this year.
     
  7. SJTillIDie

    SJTillIDie Member+

    Aug 23, 2009
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    on the other hand, you don't want players to get stale and rest on their laurels. you want competition for jobs. I've heard alan shearer say that blackburn keeping their title winning 1995 squad intact without adding anyone new the next season was a mistake and that they should've brought in one or two new players to freshen things up. they finished 7th the next season.
     
  8. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Of course. I was not asserting a bright-line rule.

    Managing a pro sports team is an art, not a science, as I've been known to tell the data-heads on occasion. :)
     
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  9. bobby_guzman

    bobby_guzman Member+

    Oct 24, 2014
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They were busy spending the first half of the season training with Samurai Headshots..worked out well....
     
  10. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
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    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    :eek:

     
  11. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
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    gatos.jpg
     
  12. Goodsport

    Goodsport Moderator
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    May 18, 1999
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is that what Catías Almeyda said when he previously coached against both Tigres and Pumas? :eek:

    GO SAN JOSE EARTHQUAKES!!! :cool:


    -G
     
  13. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
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  14. Beckham7

    Beckham7 Member+

    Jul 10, 2001
    Northern, California
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  15. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I agree with Jesse about Almeyda saying he doesn't want superstars. Honestly, in this league, stars , especially ones who are over 34 years of age, aren't always a great solution.
     
  16. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I recall reading earlier this season that this was Fioranelli's do or die and/or last year to prove himself. If the Quakes are on the verge of playoff elimination, I'm thinking Jesse's time is about over in San Jose.
     
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  17. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
    near Palo Alto, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Great point. For me, this would be the only upside to this terrible ending to the season
     
  18. Scott Rohde

    Scott Rohde Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jul 28, 2018
    Too soon to think about not making the playoffs. We have a 50% chance of making it.

    In 2017, with 2 games left in the season, we had a 26% chance of making the playoffs.

    In the 93rd minute of the last game of the regular 2017 season Urena scored the goal that put is into the playoffs.
     
  19. davez

    davez Member+

    Aug 10, 2000
    Mountain View, CA
    You didn't get the Memo, Quakes not supposed to make the playoffs, they should be happy they improved so much, signed Don Garber.
     
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  20. markmcf8

    markmcf8 Member+

    Oct 18, 1999
    Vancouver, WA, USA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So what do we think?

    If we miss the playoffs (which I think likely) does Jesse get the sack?

    Do you want Jesse to get the sack?

    Or has he done enough that he should stay?

    And if we do sack Jesse, who do we replace him with? Craig Waibel? Or do we snag some big time Euro GM to replace him?

    I'm undecided on this, really. I can see good arguments for keeping Jesse whether or not we make the playoffs. He did bring in Matías, and between them, they've signed some good players (inspite of my misgivings).

    On the otherhand, we coould ask Matías what he thinks. My guess is that he likes Jesse.

    Do we want to get an MLS veteran GM? Someone who would make better use of the MLS talent pool? Of do we want someone from Europe or Latin America? Or make Chris Leitch GM? Or keep Jesse becase we think he's doing better.

    Thought?

    Go Quakes!!

    - Mark
     
  21. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    #2521 falvo, Sep 29, 2019
    Last edited: Sep 29, 2019
    How did 2017 end up? I know that just making the playoffs is considered a positive for MLS clubs but to me, backing into the postseason and getting beat 5-0 is still a disgrace and a waste of time. That playoff loss lead to a disgraceful 2018 season and we didn’t get better until a year later.

    Now if we end up making the playoffs and play well, then that’s another story. At least that way we can look back and have something to build on.
     
  22. don gagliardi

    don gagliardi Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    Feb 28, 2004
    san jose
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    On New Years Eve, the Buffalo Bills broke a 17 year playoff drought by qualifying with a win coupled with a fourth down touchdown loss by Baltimore. Jesse Fioranelli was the first person to text me congratulations. That's how I remember 2017 ending up.

     
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  23. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
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    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    #2523 falvo, Sep 29, 2019
    Last edited: Sep 29, 2019
    Jesse Fioranelli really texted you that? How cool!
     
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  24. Scott Rohde

    Scott Rohde Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Jul 28, 2018
    If we do make the playoffs I expect we’ll lose by a lesser margin than 5-0. We’re a better team now. I can’t say I’m confident we can win on the road but I do think we’ll look much better. I’m super confident we (or any team) won’t win 4 straight on the road to win the cup.

    Also according to Quincy’s vlog the chartered flight to Vancouver broke down and the quakes had a rough time getting to Vancouver. Nobody ever talks about that.
     
  25. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    If and right now its looking to be a big if we make the playoffs, it will depend on who we match up with...

    Right now, as 6th a place team, we will end up playing the Gals. We owned them all year but with Ibra turning it on, I can't believe he will lapse in the playoffs as for him and the rest of their club , this is their time.

    As a 7th place team, we face Minnesota and although I recall losing to them on the road, I do recall dominating them. But you are right, we may have a better chance this time around than in 2017.

    Pld Pts
    1
    Los Angeles FC (Q) 32 68
    2 Minnesota United FC (Q) 32 52
    3 LA Galaxy (Q) 32 51
    4 Seattle Sounders FC (T) 32 50
    5 Real Salt Lake 32 47
    6 Portland Timbers 32 45
    7 FC Dallas 32 45
    8 San Jose Earthquakes 32 44
    9 Colorado Rapids 32 39
    10 Houston Dynamo (E) 32 37
    11 Sporting Kansas City (E) 32 37
    12 Vancouver Whitecaps FC (E) 32 31
    Updated to match(es) played on September 25, 2019. Source: MLS
    (E) Eliminated; (Q) Qualified to the phase indicated; (T) Qualified, but not yet to the particular phase indicated.

    W1 Los Angeles FC

    W4 4th West
    W5 5th West

    Western Conference

    W2 2nd West
    W7 7th West


    W3 3rd West
    W6 6th West

    Once again, its all speculation at this point as we still are on the verge of elimination.
     

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