This is the problem, then, isn't it. Some people consider it a minor reason, and some consider it a major reason. My question is this, "why should any player be forced into such a position?" Why is wearing the rainbow jersey a requirement of the team? Try looking at it the other way around. What if there was a conservative color/emblem that was forced on the team's jersey?
You're going to make that decision for her club team, which continues to employ her with nary a comment?
First, you said "now she is crying." She's not. She's been quiet on the subject for some time and Harris is reacting to the video being brought up again.
Then each player mush choose play/not play and recognize that if the choice is "not play" then they could not be called back. It is the players choice then it becomes the coaches choice.
People should be allowed to coexist without the need to force them into bearing a flag they don't believe in, regardless of the underlying reason behind that stance. Don't confuse politics and religion into this discussion.
I would agree in one sense that a lot of the issue for her will be from the opposing political ideologies using her situation for their own personal agenda. It's unfortunate because she didn't necessarily ask to be caught in the crossfire which is an indictment of the present culture. That being said I think she's pretty outspoken concerning her faith and beliefs. She just isn't spearheading this issue over her exclusion from the US pool.
She shouldn’t have to choose. Coach should say, this is a marketing thing we are doing and I obviously understand your position. We’ll hold you out of this game, but won’t allow it impact your US Status. And each and every person on that team should be able to say the same thing. Just like how each one of them begs the US public to accept them being gay... it’s all the same. People just cant separate, and that’s the problem. From coach down to players.
I give up. I am never going to convince those that support Hinkle and think she should be allowed back into the player pool and they are not going to convince me that she should be allowed back. It is pointless for me to post to this thread anymore and it is equally pointless for those on the other side to post more. We have pretty much exhausted the subject.
What’s funny is 20 years ago, it would be the gay person in this exact same situation... it wasn’t right then, and it’s not right now.
You're confusing discussing principles and issues with support. At least in my case, I neither support Hinkle, nor denounce her. I just recognize that she was conspicuously absent from a team on which she would be the first-choice left back by about three clear miles.
Don't give up, you're good company. jsk nailed it, this is a snapshot of our present culture. I just don't understand why Harris is choosing now to go after Hinkle when Hinkle didn't raise the subject. Of course, I'm old and don't understand Twitter culture.
Here's a question: Why is US Soccer having its players wear uniforms associated with one particular subset of the population? Why doesn't anybody else get that privilege? Isn't soccer meant to be apolitical? She was asked to come play soccer not partake in social displays. This isn't a private club we're talking about who can do whatever they want this is a team that represents a country of people. It seems like they forget that sometimes. This isn't travel soccer with the besties.
I look at it like this: the team seemed to be perfectly fine with Rapinoe not standing for the anthem but the team loses its mind when Hinkle says no to a rainbow shirt. Just seems like a double standard to me. Both should be perfectly acceptable actions since the goal is to play soccer and represent the USA.
Exactly. And that’s why I used the term “marketing” because in a way, that’s what I felt like those jerseys were for. They know the “gay” fan base is large, and they wanted to take advantage of it. Right or wrong, I don’t care either way, but Hinkle shouldn’t have been forced to participate if she didn’t want to (and it ruin her US opportunity).
Guys, can we stop imputing to people things no one has said? I have seen absolutely zero evidence outside of Harris' recent outburst that anyone has "lost" any "minds" over this.
she is ok to bring god into it right? did I miss your complaints of players thanking god? or prayer circles after matches? what would the conservative 'emblem' look like?
Glad I could be someone's! What the everliving ******** does this have to do with anything, you ********ing troll?
Don't confuse the issue. There should be no other flag on the US national teams jersey but the flag of the U.S.A. That's all this team represents. That's all it should represent.
It's a trendy, marketing ploy. If players wear a rainbow number, the federation can ignore the money rolling in from nation where anti gay laws are on the books. Actually, this is a private club that does whatever they want. I know people love to use the term inclusive but what happened to Sermanni when he tried to make the group more inclusive? Mace, Huerta and others have been excluded. And the rules are different. Rapinoe taking a knee is a clear contract violation. So is Lloyd going AWOL from her NWSL team after the last Olympics or Morgan's SWAT team behavior at Disney. Solo got drunk and stole the company van for a beer run and still kept her job. It very much is a private, protected club.
You put news in quotation marks. Hopefully that means you understand that some UK based personality on twitter making false statements based on a year old video based on a decision 2 years ago. As I said before, Ashlyn Harris (who is on the WNT) and her fiancee's brother brought it up because they are easily baited on social media. The news has been Harris's reaction to the tweet. There was no re-publishing of a story. There was nothing new from Hinkle to detract from the accomplishments of the team. She has not inserted herself into a discussion. A concerted effort to disparage the team is taking place.
ur issue is that you are ok with people being racist/homophobic...you have no opinion on the actual matter. You have some strange desire to say its ok to be racist/homophobic and you try to justify it with people should be tolerant of it which is just amazing. you spent the last day and a half trying to argue hinkle really just didn't like the colors and thought he shirt was ugly so she didnt want to wear it lol