MLS Flavors of the week: 2019 Edition

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by Sombrerito, Dec 20, 2018.

  1. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    "honest". Yeah, right.


    Fact: Our defense gave up 2 goals in 6 games including one v. Mexico which was McKennie's fault and his conclusion is that "long was poor so far....."

    He's not being honest and he knows it. Just admit it.
     
  2. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    "Brek Shea has a couple of nice moments"? Where? I don't see it. Can anybody show me Brek Shea's "nice moments"?
     
  3. btlove

    btlove Member

    United States
    Sep 29, 2017
    Austin Texas
    In other words “f*ck you if you don’t agree” you always make it much easier proving my points thanks

    Also, that wasn’t the only context of the conversation but I appreciate your attempt to muddy the waters you do an excellent job of that.
     
  4. tomásbernal

    tomásbernal Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Sorry, that post was not about you, just a general feeling from a bunch of posters.
     
  5. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Zelalem got the start and went 65' in SKC 3-0 win. Had 3 tackles. Vermes is building him up. Is also Olympic eligible.
     
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  6. tomásbernal

    tomásbernal Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My post was not directed @truefan420. Apologies that it looked that way.
     
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  7. FoxBoro 143

    FoxBoro 143 Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So what is the point of this thread?

    Can't we just keep it simple and discuss US eligible players in MLS and how they are performing week to week, mention younger breakout players who we should keep an eye on, and other things related to MLS players in the US conversation.

    Whether a particular MLS player is better than a particular player in Eredevisie, or if a certain player "crapped the bed" or whatever in a past national appearance is not really the point of this particular thread.
     
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  8. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Mason Toye has 4 goals and 2 assists in 174 minutes of league action. Looking promising for Olympic Qualifying.
     
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  9. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    #1759 gogorath, Jul 15, 2019
    Last edited: Jul 15, 2019
    To the Olympics themselves? YES.

    We don't even know if we are going to Copa America.
     
  10. IndividualEleven

    Mar 16, 2006
    Would prefer to see Pulisic and Adams with the Olympic Qualifying team.
     
  11. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    From what it seemed to me, Roldan really struggled when asked to receive the ball with his back to goal and play out of that. He was much better when he was put in a situation where he was moving forward when receiving the ball -- in the USMNT's case, a little more out on the wing.

    I think it's more of a matter of role for Roldan. I'm not sure there's a great spot for him in the current setup, though.
     
  12. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    I am also hoping to see Weah in the next call-up but I actually don't think Morris has stagnated at all.

    After he came back from his injury, I thought it was fairly notable that he's improved his left foot significantly. He's still right-footed, but it's not longer worthy o any kind of special comment.

    His first goal back with the Sounders was a great strike with his left, IIRC.

    At 24, he's not likely to make massive leaps anymore so I'm not proposing him for much more than depth. But he has been improving, and that's impressive for a guy who was hurt for a long time.
     
  13. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    Weah has one on one moves Morris doesn't. He also makes fantastic runs behind the defense, which is key for wings in this offense. Unlike a lot of guys, he tracks back and defends as well or better than Morris. He plays a great 1-2 game.

    He struggles at times to finish, but so does Morris. I don't know that he's massively better, but at 20, with massive athletic upside, a strong skillset for an American (better than Morris), he needs to get more minutes, no?

    Focusing on past production on the USMNT is completely missing the point, and focusing just on G+A is reaaaallly missing the point.
     
  14. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    Why does Morris need to be called in to every single friendly? Do we really need the same 23 every time?

    I'm not one who wants mass turnover at every chance, but I fail to see why Weah should have to wait 6-12 months to even see the pitch.
     
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  15. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    Morris hasn't been bad in MLS at all. He hasn't been a star, but he hasn't been bad. And he was fine for the USMNT.

    Long hasn't been bad in MLS or for the USMNT.
     
  16. 50/50 Ball

    50/50 Ball Member+

    Sep 6, 2006
    USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Big and fast is useful sometimes.

     
  17. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He does that all the time with Seattle though. Gets his head on a swivel to see the option ahead of time, and then evades the d and hits his man or makes the one-time pass.

    I mean he played the 6-8 his first year and a half w/ Seattle and that's where he succeeded the most, and now he's back to the position again. So why would he not often be receiving the ball with the ball in that position.

    W/ the NT, up until the last two games, he was having the ball roll up his leg and missing passes when he had years to make a play.
     
  18. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He also had an assist to tie Mexico and the goal to with the GC final against Panama in 13.
     
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  19. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    see below.
     
  20. truefan420

    truefan420 Member+

    May 30, 2010
    oakland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Actually if you read what I wrote I said going in he had been in poor form. His first friendly he was poor too but I said that I’d have still called him. I’ve also said I’d likely start him next to Brooks. But skip over the rest of the people I named and the overall argument I’m making and focus on 1 thing that you’ve inaccurately read.
     
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  21. TheHoustonHoyaFan

    Oct 14, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Looks like Euro squads are coming for Long. I would love to see him at Schalke especially if Wagner uses a 3CB system. He is very similar to Thilo Kehrer who we sold to PSG for $40MM. With off the charts athleticism, Long is worth a shot.

    https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2019...bac-aaron-long-drawing-transfer-offers-abroad
     
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  22. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    Why would we want Long to compete with Weston for one of S04's CB positions?.......
     
  23. laxcoach

    laxcoach Member+

    United States
    Jul 29, 2017
    intermountain west
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree Roldan looks good in MLS play. Maybe that's the 'fools gold' in evaluating talent for the USMNT.
     
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  24. thedukeofsoccer

    thedukeofsoccer Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    Wussconsin
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah, Guyana and Panama B is a better indicator. That's tougher competition than he sees in MLS. If he has his issues against those ilk it's gotta be a matter of not being able to handle the step up in opponent.
     
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  25. 50/50 Ball

    50/50 Ball Member+

    Sep 6, 2006
    USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I never get the logic of why a guy can play with and against much better players than offered by any Concacaf rival outside of Mexico at the club but can't handle it in a US shirt.

    Is Alberth Elis, playable on wed for Houston but a veritable devil if you put him in a Honduras shirt?
     

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