USMNT: The Berhalter Era pt. 1/ World Cup 2022 /Controversy

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  1. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Probably. We lost a final at home. By being completely unprepared. Against a manager who failed with the Olympic team and has yet to win a single playoff game since. It was the most terrible failure of the Berhalter era, wasting an all time great season from Kei Kamara, the last season in which Higuain was a functioning adult on the soccer field, and the best season of the Berhalter era from the midfield 2 in Trapp and Higuain. It sucked.

    If you still aren't disgusted by that game, especially seeing what Porter has to offer this team through 17 games. I have no idea what to tell you.
     
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  2. hungariansteven

    hungariansteven Member+

    May 29, 2012
    Columbus, Ohio
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    I was in St. Thomas, as my future sister in law's wedding, watching the ending to the semi-finals, realizing that we were going to host MLS Cup.

    We were flying back the night before MLS Cup, and ran into bad weather in Charlotte, and had our flight to Dayton canceled. The next flights to Dayton (where we flew out of) were the next day. That wasn't going to work for me, as it would be a stretch to get to MLS Cup.

    Instead, we were able to split the group up into different flights heading to Columbus. I was on the first flight back, arriving around 10 p.m. or so, and after landing, I was able to find a friend to pick me up from the airport and drive me to my fiance's parents house in Grove City (where we carpooled to Dayton from) so I could grab my car.

    We made a few trips to pick up family members as their flights arrived, with the cars growing in number as more people got back to the house to grab their cars.

    Amanda's parents hosted everyone for the night, and the next day, they helped coordinate driving the rest of the family members to Dayton to pick up their cars from the airport, and I was able to attend MLS Cup.

    After that disaster by Steve Clark, I started wishing that I just stayed in Charlotte and skipped the game.
     
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  3. Crewster

    Crewster Member+

    Jan 28, 2005
    Worthington
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So which of your statements on this point is now inoperative?
     
  4. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    I'm not sure. You'd probably need to put the actual statements in front of me.

    In another thread several weeks back I mentioned that I would rather have Berhalter as manager than Porter. Today I mentioned that such a statement does not mean we should kept Berhalter on as manager or extended him after 5 trophy-less seasons.

    Neither of those statements is in conflict with the position that Porter completely out coached Berhalter and embarrassed him, the Crew and their fans in MLS Cup 2015.
     
  5. Crewster

    Crewster Member+

    Jan 28, 2005
    Worthington
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So your position on who you would rather have as manger varies based on who is manager?
     
  6. hangthadj

    hangthadj Member+

    A.S. Roma
    Mar 27, 2001
    Zone 14
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Not really. I've discussed this here and elsewhere already. I'll provide the shortest version for the laziest among us here who haven't will, patience, or intellectual capacity to recognize earlier arguments.

    I think Berhalter's five years within the team without a trophy and with diminishing results post 2015 necessitated a change.

    I was extremely unhappy with the Porter hiring. I have been even more disappointed by his managing.

    If we were in a post apocalyptic world where only two managers were available to manage this team and they were Berhalter and Porter then I think Berhalter could get more out of this team despite the fact that Porter completely outcoached him in 2015 MLS Cup.

    I recognize we don't live in a post apocalyptic world and think there were many better choices for the Columbus Crew than Berhalter or Porter, just as I believe there were better choices than Behalter for the USMNT.

    I come to these conclusions living in the real world.
     
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  7. Draghignazzo

    Draghignazzo Member+

    Feb 24, 2007
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Quite the interesting lineup from 3G tonight.
     
  8. TKyle

    TKyle Moderator
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    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Dec 28, 2014
    Nordecke’s Porch
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I’ll say.
    Kind of ballsy to make so many changes against the biggest challenge of the group, and after back to back wins.
     
  9. Draghignazzo

    Draghignazzo Member+

    Feb 24, 2007
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    #434 Draghignazzo, Jun 26, 2019
    Last edited: Jun 26, 2019
    Not sure about ballsy, but back to back wins in group stage is exactly the time to experiment and get the bench involved in case you need them in a deep run, or need an emergency tactics change.
     
  10. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    They seem to have rediscovered their allergy to shooting.
     
  11. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    Double "dj" needs to come off.
     
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  12. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    Well, shit. That was a useful corner from Djordje.

    Nice bike from 3 inches, Jozy.
     
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  13. jack sticker

    jack sticker Red Card

    Rangers
    United States
    Jun 5, 2018
    Fcuk hate Altidore
     
  14. TKyle

    TKyle Moderator
    Staff Member

    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Dec 28, 2014
    Nordecke’s Porch
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Jozy Altidore hype bicycle?
     
  15. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    Kiwi Power!
     
  16. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    Abdulrahman Al-Jassim has let a lot go, but man does he talk a lot.
     
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  17. TKyle

    TKyle Moderator
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    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Dec 28, 2014
    Nordecke’s Porch
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Experiment and bench involvement yes, but all 11? Against your toughest group matchup?
    *So far*, it’s paying off.
     
  18. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    That looked like a good tackle. Dafuq?
     
  19. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    Jozy just totally mind********ed the referee.
     
  20. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    I thought two-footed tackles from behind were auto-amarillo.
     
  21. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    Tricycle Man on for Bicycle Man?
     
  22. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    How is that not a yellow?
     
  23. TKyle

    TKyle Moderator
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    Columbus Crew
    United States
    Dec 28, 2014
    Nordecke’s Porch
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Miazga>Omar.
    (Duh)
     
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  24. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    Yep. Omar has been OK, but not great.
     
  25. Timon19

    Timon19 Member+

    Jun 2, 2007
    Akron, OH
    Lovitz is a black hole. He has gotten worse over the course of the game, too.
     
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