2019 Gold Cup

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  1. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    NRod gonna NRod.
     
  2. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Most Haitians live in Flushing/Jamaica/Forest Hills, Queens from where RBA is a 90 minute trip.
     
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  3. NashSC

    NashSC Member+

    Nashville SC
    United States
    Jan 3, 2018
    A lot of tournaments keep the 1st and 2nd seed on opposite sides of the bracket so they can't meet until the final. This is extremely common. Mexico and US are 1 and 2 seed. I believe CONCACAF uses FIFA ranking to seed.
     
  4. newtex

    newtex Member+

    May 25, 2005
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Right, that is correct for fixed bracket tournaments but that's not how the Gold Cup is set up. The US and Mexico cannot possibly face each other until the final no matter how they do in the group stage. Not very many tournaments are set up like that.

    Look at the Women's World Cup. The USA was one of the top seeds but could have been on completely opposite sides of the bracket depending on their finish in the group.
     
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  5. CMeszt

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    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Yeah, the only major tournament with a similar setup that I remember was the 2002 World Cup, which kept two sides of the bracket separate to prevent the possibility of Korea and/or Japan having to play games in the other country. Hence how Turkey and Brazil played each other twice.

    (they still had situations like Mexico's group where teams started out in Japan but were guaranteed to play their knockout games in Korea, but that's neither here nor there to this discussion)
     
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  6. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That Jamaican goal has been coming for the last 5 minutes or so...
     
  7. Elninho

    Elninho Member+

    Sacramento Republic FC
    United States
    Oct 30, 2000
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Curacao's defense looks bad by J-League standards.
     
  8. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yet Jamaica still has just the one...
     
  9. Justin O

    Justin O Member+

    Seattle Sounders
    United States
    Nov 30, 1998
    on the run from the covid
    Club:
    Seattle
  10. Justin O

    Justin O Member+

    Seattle Sounders
    United States
    Nov 30, 1998
    on the run from the covid
    Club:
    Seattle
    Wow! Stoppage time golazo equalizer for Curacao, and then almost an even bigger Curacao golazo winner with basically the last kick of the game. But just wide.

    Now the next game means something. El Salvador can finish 1st, 2nd or 3rd.
     
  11. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How much does Honduras have to win by to advance Curacao?
     
  12. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    #512 ArsenalMetro, Jun 25, 2019
    Last edited: Jun 25, 2019
    Honduras is already eliminated.

    El Salvador needs a draw or better.

    Edit: sorry, misread that. A 1-0 Honduras win advances Curacao. A 2-1 sends it to H2H, which El Salvador wins. Any 1-goal win above that scoreline puts El Salvador through on goals scored.

    So 1-0 or any two goal win for Honduras puts Curacao into the quarters.
     
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  13. Justin O

    Justin O Member+

    Seattle Sounders
    United States
    Nov 30, 1998
    on the run from the covid
    Club:
    Seattle
    #513 Justin O, Jun 25, 2019
    Last edited: Jun 25, 2019
    2 goals. But I think a 1-0 win for Honduras would also do it.

    EDIT
    The real question is what happens if Honduras win 2-1.

    EDIT EDIT
    The real question is answered above.
     
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  14. Salvadanish

    Salvadanish Member

    Sep 14, 2014
    Vancouver, WA
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    If 'SLV 0-1 HON', then CUR advances on goals scored ...
    If SLV loses by 1 goal but scores at least 1 goal, I believe they still top CUR by goals scored or head-to-head?
    A tie keeps SLV in 2nd place, unless it's like 4-4, then they could top JAM.

    In conclusion, this show just got muy interesante ...
     
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  15. JayRockers!

    JayRockers! Member+

    Aug 4, 2001
    Provided we beat Panama, I’d love to see us lose to Curacao.
     
  16. JayRockers!

    JayRockers! Member+

    Aug 4, 2001
    Uh, oh!

    HON 1-0 SLV
     
  17. JayRockers!

    JayRockers! Member+

    Aug 4, 2001
  18. Salvadanish

    Salvadanish Member

    Sep 14, 2014
    Vancouver, WA
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Gahddammit Honduras, picked a lovely time to actually compete ... but if only El Salvador can get one on the board then there's still hope ...
     
  19. JayRockers!

    JayRockers! Member+

    Aug 4, 2001
    Boom!

    H 3-0 ES
     
  20. JayRockers!

    JayRockers! Member+

    Aug 4, 2001
    That’s four. Like the opposite of Cuba.

    Curacao players enjoying this in the stands.
     
  21. NeilB

    NeilB Member

    Mar 17, 2000
    Mount Kisco, NY
    Is it just me but has this been one of the most enjoyable tournaments ever?

    Seeing the Curaçao team celebrating warms the cockles of my cold, cold heart.
     
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  22. Elninho

    Elninho Member+

    Sacramento Republic FC
    United States
    Oct 30, 2000
    Sacramento, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Full time.

    [​IMG]
     
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  23. Justin O

    Justin O Member+

    Seattle Sounders
    United States
    Nov 30, 1998
    on the run from the covid
    Club:
    Seattle
    Agreed. I think it has shown well for the decision to go to 16 teams. I liked that decision because it got rid of 3rd place teams making the knock out stage. But this year's tournament also shows that the bottom teams to make it in aren't guaranteed to get squashed, as feared by some. Some years that will probably happen, but there will also be years like this.
     
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  24. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Curacao players celebrating while eating bags of kettle corn will be the enduring image of this Gold Cup.
     
  25. Justin O

    Justin O Member+

    Seattle Sounders
    United States
    Nov 30, 1998
    on the run from the covid
    Club:
    Seattle
    Hey Honduras finished top of the group in goal differential!
     
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