Summer 2019 - The Zizou Revolution Transfer Thread

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  1. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    We all know it's Zidane.

    Zidane doesn't forgive man... just like Solari lol.

    I really wish they could work things out. I wish James would come hat in hand and tell Zizou he will be a bench player and play any role.

    We could have 6 midfielders; Kroos, Modric, Casemiro, Valverde, James and Pogba/Whomever.

    James would never go for that though...
     
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  2. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 26, 2006
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    Real Madrid
    Why should he? A bit of self respect isn't bad either.
     
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  3. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    Just because you don't like to admit you're wrong doesn't mean he shouldn't lol.

    He started it. Now be a man and try to sort this crap out
     
  4. robnycus

    robnycus Member+

    Jun 28, 2010
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    I honestly believe James would be happy here as a rotational player but not as a bench player who is not even considered for CL matches, which is what was happening here in his last season..not even included in the squad.
     
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  5. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    Real Madrid
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    #3655 Saeta Rubia, Jun 24, 2019
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  6. Saeta Rubia

    Saeta Rubia Member+

    May 28, 2010
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    Real Madrid
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  7. Yannick Relens

    Yannick Relens Member+

    Real Madrid
    Belgium
    Jan 21, 2018
    Come on dude. Bale is average at the moment. Lost his speed , his shooting seems to be off a lot as well and because of multiply injuries he plays like someone who doesn't want to get injured again. I would be very very suprised if we get more than 40 mil for him..
     
  8. Prit Javier

    Prit Javier Member+

    Real Madrid
    England
    May 9, 2018
    if anything lol, his wages are the issue
     
  9. fierro

    fierro Member+

    Jan 30, 2007
    El Chuco
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    His wages are the ultimate issue because even if we decide to give him away for free we still have to find a club that will pay his wages and that he will agree to go to.

    But the context of this discussion is how much we can actually get in transfer fees, closer to 40ME or 80ME?
     
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  10. Eddie

    Eddie Member+

    Oct 19, 2005
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I think i've made my point very clear. If you think that bale is average than you are delusional. He's much better than average and would instantly be the best player in many big teams in Europe.
     
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  11. fierro

    fierro Member+

    Jan 30, 2007
    El Chuco
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    I think that was the straw that broke the camels back. I mean put Bale went right into the CL final squad despite the fact Bale hadn't played a game in months. A huge slap in the face to players like James who was in form and made significant contributions to the team that year.

    Asensio also got selected over him. And while I understand that it was a good faith gesture towards Bale because the final was in Wales and that with regard to Asensio some were speculating that he had a higher ceiling and more potential than James.

    But in retrospect those decisions were mistakes, Zidane's mistakes. So I don't know why James has to apologize. Zidane put his faith in players that have for the most part failed to pay him back (Asensio by sucking most of the time and Bale by being a jerk).

    I think after all he's been through at this point he would come back a more mature and humble player (with all the quality and creativity still in tact).

    I think that he would not only accept a backup role but that (like in 2017) he will be be giving the coach a huge game day selection headache (which is probably the scenario Zidane sees playing out and desperately wants to avoid because with his favorites there is nothing to think about no matter how well anyone plays).
     
  12. Nathanial Essex

    Nathanial Essex Member+

    Real Madrid
    England
    Mar 19, 2017
    Bale is on a contract he signed a couple years ago that does not match his stock now. IF he cares about the remainder of his career, he would happily take a pay cut (and still be one of the best paid players) and join another team.

    So IF he cares about the remainder of his career, his salary won't be an issue for any top club wanting him and there would at least be rumours around him departing or some news about clubs making an enquiry and us setting a fee.

    The problem we have with Bale is no one is willing to pay what he should be worth at this age. People see Bale for what he is; a player way past his prime, on a steep decline, poor injury record and is more focused on enriching himself as much as he can before he retires.
     
  13. ElCapitánSR4

    ElCapitánSR4 Member+

    Real Madrid
    Spain
    Sep 14, 2017
    How can people still think that Bale is that good..? Yes, Bale WAS one of the best players in the world, in 2014. That doesn’t mean he’s one of the best in the present. He lost his pace, which was his biggest strength. He doesn’t seem to care anymore.
     
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  14. surgeon

    surgeon Member+

    Aug 28, 2012

    Give me some of that stuff you're smoking.
     
  15. robnycus

    robnycus Member+

    Jun 28, 2010
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    #3665 robnycus, Jun 24, 2019
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    He does not want to admit making those mistakes, which is what would happen if James comes back.
    He may think his decisions with regards to player selection would be put into question going forward.
    This is why I think he probably wants to continue giving Asensio a chance until he scores a big goal again in an important game.. any other coach would probably not consider Asensio even as a bench option at this point..They would always play Bale and Vinicious over him.
     
  16. Eddie

    Eddie Member+

    Oct 19, 2005
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Reality? I know people like to hate on Bale and to be honest some of it is deserved because of his gestures and comments, but to act like he's some bum is really delusional.

    As i said in the post you quoted, i made my point very clear, if you want to read it as more than it is than it's your problem :D.
     
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  17. surgeon

    surgeon Member+

    Aug 28, 2012

    In my opinion, as a professional footballer Bale is finished on all levels. Physical, mental, you name it.

    I don't have a problem with him holding onto his contract. It's a contract after all and the club signed it and they need to adhere to it. If if the guy doesn't want to leave then he stays and plays golf. As it looks he doesn't want to go to a tier 2 club and he doesn't want to play for less then what he's making here and he seems to be fine mentally with replacing football with golf.

    No one in his right mind will give him the salary he wants and no big club is going to bet on a 30 year old glass man, so where does it leave him? It brings me back to my first sentence; it leaves him finished.

    As 4x4 said, desperation might kick in at some of the clubs after a bad summer and he might end up at Man United, but him in this physical and mental state surrounded with those scrubs, the only option is failure.
     
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  18. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Imagine how terrible the rest of the players have to be for somebody like that to be the team's second highest scorer last season. If we figure out second best player is somebody who is "physically and mentally finished" then we need to sign 12 players, not a handful of them.

    I only hope we judge the players we signed by the same standards then. Anything less than excellence is failure.
     
  19. Eddie

    Eddie Member+

    Oct 19, 2005
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    You are exaggerating big time...
     
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  20. BjornH

    BjornH Member

    AC Milan
    Norway
    Mar 25, 2019
    Norway
    Nat'l Team:
    Norway
    Yes I am with @Eddie - it`s bad to talk about such things with someone u dont know, and it has nothing to do with soccer.

    What about Neymar - he struggle a lot more than Bale recently who have a relative healthy family life in Madrid in the recent years. Yes we are all aware the club and coach is not asking for his service next season, but take it easy with such topics.
     
  21. Zidane05

    Zidane05 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jul 18, 2005
    Toronto
    Is that why he's still fixated on playing for one coach?
     
  22. Yannick Relens

    Yannick Relens Member+

    Real Madrid
    Belgium
    Jan 21, 2018
    You make it sound like he scored many goals. He scored 8 in La Liga. I feel people are indeed exaggerating but no way he is a top player at the moment.
     
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  23. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    Real Madrid
    Doesn't change a single thing about what I wrote though does it? Only makes it worse.
     
  24. robnycus

    robnycus Member+

    Jun 28, 2010
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    #3674 robnycus, Jun 25, 2019
    Last edited: Jun 25, 2019
    He is definitely not top anymore but not as terrible as others were last season
     
  25. Crimson

    Crimson BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 11, 2009
    Bale was our best winger last season

    Which means he's our second best right now, to Hazard.

    No matter how much people hate on him
     
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