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Discussion in 'Italy: National Teams' started by O'Ghiattone, Nov 17, 2015.

  1. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    #601 r0adrunner, Jun 23, 2019
    Last edited: Jun 23, 2019
    Asolutely. I agree 100%.

    There has been a problem for a while in producing creative players from the Italian player development system.

    It's also incorrect to suggest the national youth teams - especially the under 21s which is really under 23s to fit the Olympic age-limit - are not important routes into the NT. The bulk of NT players in any country come via that route. The only exceptions are those who tend to develop later like Luca Toni, but they are never key players for an excellent NT.
     
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  2. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I think people are making too many excuses: Italy prioritised this competition and reaching the semi-finals - and with it qualification for Tokyo 2020 - was seen as the minimum acceptable result.

    We should also put it into the conext of no Italians team - club or national - winning anything since Inter won the club WC in 2010. I would be suprised if Italy has suffered such a long title-drought in the past or certainly since 1970.
     
  3. gumbacicc

    gumbacicc Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    USA
    I don't understand how anyone can watch this side and think we have no talent. They were, by a wide margin, superior to everyone they've played so far, playing good football. The issue, simply, was that they were not clinical against Poland. I am very optimistic about the future of Italian football for the first time in a very long time.
     
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  4. totti fan

    totti fan Red Card

    Jun 24, 2010
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Who said we have no talent?
     
  5. TheAnswer1313

    TheAnswer1313 Member+

    Dec 12, 2007
    Charleston, WV
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    TBH we were completely dominant against Poland.
    We won our other two games of the group.

    I really don't feel like we played at all poorly if this is the end of our tournament.
     
  6. r0adrunner

    r0adrunner Member+

    Jun 4, 2011
    London, UK
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Denmark 2-0 Serbia with half an hour or so left, one more goal for the Danes and they will overtake Italy as the best runner-up pending the completion of Group C tomorrow.

    This Italy squad was overrated and doesn't deserve a semi-final place based on their performances. Six goals in three games is an unsatusfactory return.
     
  7. legdonor

    legdonor Member

    Apr 29, 2006
    Firenze
    Agree with gumbacicc. Italy may go out in the group stage but still looked like the best team in the group and definitely top 3 of the tournament. Very good group of kids coming up supported by the u-20's and u-19's. For the first time in a very long time, the future is looking bright.
     
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  8. TheAnswer1313

    TheAnswer1313 Member+

    Dec 12, 2007
    Charleston, WV
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Well Serbia did the job

    We are still alive.
     
  9. TheAnswer1313

    TheAnswer1313 Member+

    Dec 12, 2007
    Charleston, WV
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Do we root for a Romania victory now or a France win by 3 ......which is more likely? lol
     
  10. totti fan

    totti fan Red Card

    Jun 24, 2010
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    They'll tie
     
  11. legdonor

    legdonor Member

    Apr 29, 2006
    Firenze
    France and Romania already preparing for semis for sure.
     
  12. TheAnswer1313

    TheAnswer1313 Member+

    Dec 12, 2007
    Charleston, WV
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Prob but ya never know lol
     
  13. Hulk_Hogan_Italia

    AC Milan
    Italy
    Aug 17, 2005
    Toronto, Canada
    Who would you rather avoid spain,Italy or Germany
     
  14. TheAnswer1313

    TheAnswer1313 Member+

    Dec 12, 2007
    Charleston, WV
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Good question lol
     
  15. Mean Machine

    Mean Machine Member+

    May 23, 2018
    I'd say a Romania victory is way more likely, but the problem is they know if they play draw it will send them both through which scares me. I hope they just play it out and both try and win.
     
  16. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Biscotto Time!
     
  17. TheAnswer1313

    TheAnswer1313 Member+

    Dec 12, 2007
    Charleston, WV
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Maybe Romania will score by accident lol.

    I mean they are probably going to play for a draw but I can't see either team just kicking the ball back and forth to one another for the full 90 minutes lol.

    This was a disadvantage being in Group A for Italy.
     
  18. totti fan

    totti fan Red Card

    Jun 24, 2010
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Is that a rhetorical question, because I doubt they are even seriously considering that. I'd want to qualify.
     
  19. totti fan

    totti fan Red Card

    Jun 24, 2010
    Club:
    SSC Napoli
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    That Sweden Denmark 2-2 managed to look pretty convincing.
     
  20. Calcio Pauly

    Calcio Pauly Member+

    Jun 17, 2012
    Club:
    AC Milan
    So you mean they should try to outscore the other team? Good advice dude.
     
  21. TheAnswer1313

    TheAnswer1313 Member+

    Dec 12, 2007
    Charleston, WV
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Lol well if both just need a draw to advance ....
     
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  22. Calcio Pauly

    Calcio Pauly Member+

    Jun 17, 2012
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Especially three vs a Spanish side that was "2 levels above us"

    It's pretty clear by now that you're just a troll. Wasn't England's u21 team supposed to light up this tournament anyhow?
     
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  23. Calcio Pauly

    Calcio Pauly Member+

    Jun 17, 2012
    Club:
    AC Milan
    And that's literally all the trolls needed to hang onto their claims that players like Chiesa or Barella are not talented enough, because if they were men of steel with a cape and could fly then, like Messi, they'd pick this team up and ensure that no matter what, they'd win all the time.
     
  24. Calcio Pauly

    Calcio Pauly Member+

    Jun 17, 2012
    Club:
    AC Milan
    I was initially responding to this:

    Which is just an unnecessarily verbose way of saying "We's needed a finish dos 2 sitters vs Poland!" All the rest of the doom gloom sky falling routine from those two trolls is just an exercise in mental masturbation at this point.
     
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  25. Pietro Calcio

    Pietro Calcio Member+

    Jul 28, 2007
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    Thought Italy had France on a + 1 GD....so if France - Romania ends in a draw isn't Italy through?

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